Human DNA has about 875mb of data, or 100 odd volumes of Encyclopedia Brittanicas worth. — Pop
Everything that manifests itself does so in relation to something
— Possibility
:up: In the distinction of one thing and another arises two distinct forms. Hence energy and information. — Pop
Logic is commonly defined as a proper or reasonable way of thinking about something. But what is logic
— Possibility
Logic is the only way to understand something, via a structure of knowledge. The thing understood, is understood in terms of the already established understanding. — Pop
QM determines the evolution of mass. To include energy quantum field theory has to be involved, the 7 gauge fields (they INTERACTIONmediating fields) representing energy, like the photon field. Dont be awed by qft. Its very easy conceptually. The math is merely used to impress. — Prishon
Energy is
So in fact all men are equal but differently formed inormation structures? To put it in a highly abstract way
— Prishon
In fact a bee equals a people... — Prishon
So I'm trying to get you to see the difference between data and brain information. — Mark Nyquist
You can’t fully quantify brain information. — Possibility
You can’t fully quantify brain information. — Possibility
You can’t fully quantify brain information.
— Possibility
It depends. If you mean simply entropic information then it can. — Prishon
We can define brain information as physical brain state. It's completely different than Claude Shannon information theory but is information as we know it. — Mark Nyquist
You can’t fully quantify brain information — Possibility
Everything that manifests itself does so in relation to something
— Possibility
:up: In the distinction of one thing and another arises two distinct forms. Hence energy and information.
— Pop
?? That’s nothing like what I wrote. Can you explain how you think this is saying the same thing? — Possibility
You’re presuming that someone exists with knowledge and a capacity for understanding - ie. thinking. I’m not. I’m talking about what logic is before anything exists. What is this ‘structure’ without knowledge? — Possibility
This is what I thought was significant - data is ones and zeros but mental content is fully formed ideas that are interconnected with the environment and dynamic. — Mark Nyquist
that brain content representing the non-physical can control physical matter. — Mark Nyquist
So non-physicals can't exist (that's my philosophical opinion) but mental content of things that are physically non-existent can exist. — Mark Nyquist
Im not sure I understand this — Prishon
it is mental content of things that are physically non-existent. — Mark Nyquist
I get that a lot.
I use non-physical as a noun but it's more commonly used as a adjective. Does that help at — Mark Nyquist
I was asking about physically non-existing things. — Prishon
Holding non-physicals is a capability of our brains and unique to our brains. — Mark Nyquist
. A physically non-existing thing is a general catagory of information (or brain state). Holding non-physicals is a capability of our brains and unique to our brains. — Mark Nyquist
Holding non-physicals is a capability of our brains and unique to our brains. — Mark Nyquist
Cant the physical world contain non-entropic information too? — Prishon
I dunno, but our brains are at the top as far as we know. — Mark Nyquist
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