I don't see why robotic entities can't be created through non-biological processes. — RogueAI
When did consciousness first arise? — RogueAI
I am assuming that you accept the fact that you are made up of multiple living cells. I assume that you don’t regard a single cell as ‘being alive’ in the same manner that multicellular organisms are alive. — I like sushi
...we know so very little about consciousness and that it may just be that the rudiments of consciousness exist in a singular neuron just like a single cell is rudimentary to a living organism. — I like sushi
A bacterium is a single-celled organism which I regard as being alive. — Daemon
How do you know bacteria aren't conscious? — RogueAI
I assume that you don’t regard a single cell as ‘being alive’ in the same manner that multicellular organisms are alive. — I like sushi
I'm not clear what point you're making with the talk of "rudiments", or your remarks about language. — Daemon
Given that neurons seem damn important for thinking I’d rule out bacteria. Ants … they certainly do not appear to be conscious like I am and nor do dogs for that matter. Maybe they can be said to be ‘conscious’ in some rudimentary fashion and even have processing that could be called ‘thinking’ in some fashion? Who knows? Bees appear to be quite clever in some ways, btu appearances can be deceiving. — I like sushi
A bacterium can swim towards a desirable chemical, say a food source. To do this it needs to able to tell whether the concentration of the chemical is rising or falling over time, which seems to require a memory, which is an aspect of consciousness.
However, we know in astounding detail how the bacterium does this, we can describe the process fully in terms of chemical reactions, without having to talk about the bacterium feeling, experiencing, being conscious. There's an explanation here: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/comments/S0960-9822(02)01424-0 — Daemon
Also, if insects are conscious, then we're getting pretty close to panpsychism. — RogueAI
I tried to show that it reasonable to state that multicellular organisms are ‘living’ on a different level compared to single cells. — I like sushi
I don’t know. I do know that everything displaying qualities I relate to consciousness possesses a brain (in order to ‘feel’).
I generally view a body as a requirement for consciousness too, but that is a whole other area. — I like sushi
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