Yeah, not actually.
We already saw this didn't happen in the case of the Soviet Union collapsing. Or with the sad case of the Iraqi scientists building Saddam's bomb.
Those people will be on the kill list of many intelligence services.
And that's why knowledge of nuclear technology, which is now basically ancient tech, hasn't proliferated: if anyone is so stupid to try to sell services to terrorists, that's a guarantee you will get on the CIA/Mossad hit list. And actually, those people (with the tech knowledge) know this. — ssu
Actually, the Soviet collapse was far more dangerous as:The key difference is that the number of nukes and people behind them is much higher by the collapse of Russia than anyone else. It's by a large magnitude different. And a collapse of modern Russia would be different from the Soviet collapse seen as Russia would be fractured into more states than before and each state would set its own agendas rather than deal with a larger main state as was the case after the Soviet collapse. — Christoffer
Latest step in our descent into absolute fucking lunacy. Well done everyone. — Isaac
Shame not every refugee is equally as 'Ukrainian' — Isaac
20 Years of Immigrant Abuses — Isaac
That's the West. And also that's the West: Human Rights Watch (HRW) is an international non-governmental organization, headquartered in New York City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Watch). — neomac
Are you really saying that Poland, the Baltic states, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, the Czech republic all joined NATO in order to benefit from humanitarian assistance? — Olivier5
Again, for the third time, what kind of statements and actions would demonstrate to you an “imperialistic bent”? — neomac
But nobody underestimated the “imperialistic bent” of Russia, — neomac
If Russia stays within its borders and recognizes that Austria, Singapore, Japan and Israel all developed huge economies with no resources and in small territories, they, with a vast territory and vast resources, could do enormous things for their people. Then there is no security problem. — neomac
According to Zbigniew Brzezinski, ``We should not be shy in saying that NATO expansion will help a democratic Russia and hurt an imperialistic Russia.'' — neomac
`Fear of a new wave of Russian imperialism . . . should not be seen as the driving force behind NATO enlargement,'' says Mr. Talbott. — neomac
It does seem to me that whatever residual imperialistic tendencies, which, indeed, can be a problem, can best be contained by methods other than adding members to NATO. — neomac
Ukraine would be subject to transparency and standards to join the EU, for example. — jorndoe
it just seems like that ship has sailed long ago; the Kremlin (and Putin) appears to be on a wretched warpath. — jorndoe
I'm struggling to think of anything more dumbfoundingly bigoted than thinking the fight for human rights is a 'Western thing'. — Isaac
If "diplomacy" means a cease fire on the lines now, that would be most beneficial to Russia's war aims. Putin could justifiably say his war has been victorious and once he has refurbished his war material in a few years, he could start the war again and finish the nazis once and for all.Anyway, I'm wondering how many (varying) avenues for diplomacy are possible. — jorndoe
Are you really saying that Poland, the Baltic states, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, the Czech republic all joined NATO in order to benefit from humanitarian assistance?
— Olivier5
No. — Mikie
Do you have the slightest idea why Poland, the Baltic states, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania and the Czech republic all joined NATO, then? — Olivier5
Do you have the slightest idea why Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan joined the Collective Security Treaty Organization? — Isaac
Whatever it is that’s convinced you of it prior to the NATO summit. I’m not interested in surmise and gut feelings. — Mikie
Regardless, I asked about the threat of imperialism prior to the NATO summit because the claim was that NATO expansion was due to the threat of Putin’s imperialist ambitions. — Mikie
As Mearsheimer notes — who isn’t an “average dude” but who, unlike you and I, has studied this for decades and is considered a foremost expert on it— this claim is an invention, started especially after 2014. — Mikie
Then you asked me for evidences about Georgia ... which case BTW presents -similarities to what Putin is doing now in Ukraine — neomac
Because they sought some amount of protection against possible aggressions, I suppose.
— Olivier5
From whom? — Isaac
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