 Srap Tasmaner
Srap Tasmaner         
         they are both merely systems on a trajectory towards consciousness. — sackoftrout
 Thorongil
Thorongil         
         As you say, you cannot inflict harm or suffering on a non-conscious object. A foetus is not conscious, therefore you cannot inflict harm on it. Its cognitive abilities are irrelevant. — sackoftrout
Actions of moral relevance can only be carried out in physical reality. — sackoftrout
 Srap Tasmaner
Srap Tasmaner         
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