Rather than a logic I would say an intelligible regularity. — Fooloso4
What do logics basically consist in, if not intelligible regularities? — Janus
475. I want to regard man here as an animal; as a primitive being to which one grants instinct but not ratiocination. As a creature in a primitive state. Any logic good enough for a primitive means of
communication needs no apology from us.
475. I want to regard man here as an animal; as a primitive being to which one grants instinct but not ratiocination. As a creature in a primitive state. Any logic good enough for a primitive means of
communication needs no apology from us.
287. The squirrel does not infer by induction that it is going to need stores next winter as well. And
no more do we need a law of induction to justify our actions or our predictions. — Fooloso4
What do logics basically consist in, if not intelligible regularities? — Janus
So, in the PI and beyond, logic is seen in the various uses of the proposition in our forms of life. Logic, then, is still about the proposition, but it's internal to the various uses we give to the proposition. Logic, is intrinsic to how we use propositions in various settings, and it's what gives propositions their sense. — Sam26
I would argue that the logic of our most primitive forms of life lies foremost in the activity, what is done, rather than what is said. — Fooloso4
You can't separate what is said (propositions) from what is done, which is why language-games are connected with our forms of life (activities). — Sam26
— On Certainty402. In the beginning was the deed.
What he being said when the baby cries? It it communicating but is it trying to communicate and what is it saying? — Fooloso4
It seems to me that if something can be put into a proposition, then by that very fact, it has a propositional form — Banno
Seems to me that if something is the case, then it is in a form that can be put into a proposition - whether it has been or not. IF you prefer, the world is proposition-ready... — Banno
Where we disagree is that it has propositional form before being used as a proposition. — Sam26
Not quite. At issue is realism against antirealism. Things can be true and yet unsaid; there are unstated facts. — Banno
Logic, viz., propositional logic, is an act of inference using propositions. Not all of our actions are of this type, which I'm sure you know, and not all regularities are of this type. My thinking was that there is a kind of logic, not propositional logic (formal logic), behind reality, this was the thinking of Wittgenstein in the Tractatus. Logic in the T. is the starting point, and this W. inherited from Russell and Frege. — Sam26
IF you prefer, the world is proposition-ready... — Banno
All I'm doing is trying to show that logic is not only part of W's thinking in his early philosophy, but it's also part of his later philosophy as well. ↪Fooloso4 seems to want to deny this, or dimmish it. — Sam26
there is an underlying logic to language — Sam26
(PI 92)For it sees the essence of things not as something that already lies open to view, and that becomes surveyable through a process of ordering, but as something that lies beneath the surface.
PI 125.
This entanglement in our rules is what we want to understand: that is, to survey.
Facts and states of affairs are propositional. Hence the world is propositional It can be put into propositions, despite not having all been put into propositions. — Banno
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