For one, because of simple metrics like population and geographics — Tzeentch
and secondly because Israel's treatment of the Palestinian people is giving its neighbors common cause against it. — Tzeentch
:up: :up:Living through a genocidehappeningbefore our eyes, with 10000+ children dead, and yet apologists think this time it’s an exception.
History will view them poorly — Mikie
C'mon, the ICJ issued a report that's only preliminary and is not a UN policy-making agency.Why didn't the ICJ demand a cease-fire? — RogueAI
It's almost like they don't really believe a genocide is going on.
— RogueAI
No. — Mikie
Well, they've managed for a good while, almost surrounded by hostiles/unfriendlies in superior numbers on the ground. (Though not exactly all as efficiently as Entebbe 1976.) Looking back, I kind of get the impression that they built out a (modern) society in a desert, however discriminatory/thefty. — jorndoe
WASHINGTON, Jan 28 (Reuters) - Three U.S. service members were killed and at least 34 wounded in a drone attack by Iran-backed militants on U.S. troops in northeastern Jordan near the Syrian border, President Joe Biden and U.S. officials said on Sunday.
Jan 28th (Al Jazeera) - The Islamic Resistance in Iraq, an umbrella group of Iran-backed armed groups, claimed attacks targeting three bases, including one on the Jordan-Syria border.
Jordan condemned on Sunday the “terrorist attack” on a military advance post just inside its border with Syria and said it was cooperating with Washington to secure its frontier.
What I see here is a process of the US slowly but determinedly sucked into the quagmire of a Middle Eastern conflict, which isn't beneficial for itself, but works well especially for Bibi. If Israel (or the US) attacks Iranian assets in lets say Lebanon and Syria (as has been done), Iran let's it "Axis of Resistance" go on with their agenda by giving them materiel. — ssu
Nope. Nuclear deterrence works. Especially when the other side doesn't have nuclear weapons. And I guess the Israelis, unlike the Americans who live on another continent, have an incentive to stay in the Middle East. Israel won't go away. Although in their propaganda they say that it's them who are on the verge of being wiped out.And Israel too, presumably? — Punshhh
Although in their propaganda they say that it's them who are on the verge of being wiped out. — ssu
Antisemitism has once again become normalized; Jews are seen as the oppressors by 2/3 in Gen Z — BitconnectCarlos
What I see here is a process of the US slowly but determinedly sucked into the quagmire of a Middle Eastern conflict, which isn't beneficial for itself — ssu
o I guess, let the Middle East implode in its genocidal project to only be safe for extremist versions of various Muslim sects. It's already failed at trying Western versions of shitty forms of government (Bathists/ Nasserism etc.). — schopenhauer1
That's not how criminal law works though. — Benkei
That is plausible.Israel is sensing US overstretch, and realizes that if the US now gets stuck in a conflict elsewhere, say Korea, Taiwan, etc. Israel may be on its own for the foreseeable future.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to make sure the conflict the US eventually gets stuck in is the one that borders on their interests. — Tzeentch
Actually John Mersheimer said the reality quite well: The Israeli Lobby, just as any successful lobby, is basically part of the US system of lobbying. It's there just like the gun lobby is. Not only are there many Jewish Americans, but also the Evangelical support for Israel that will be there also in the future. Only something really terrible, actually, could make this to change. I don't see that for instance AIPAC would anytime need to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.They would be dependent on an umbilical cord to the US and judging by the state of politics in the US at the moment that cord could be severed at some point in the future. — Punshhh
Criticism of the actions of the Israeli state gives also the antisemites an opportunity to act. This is unfortunately the way how this goes in other examples too: the opposition of Putin's attack into Ukraine has also brought hostility towards Russians and acts of Russofobia in general. Yet many Russians, especially those outside of Russia, don't at all support Putin. But many will simply generalize their opposition of the actions of the Russian state to being against Russians in general.Antisemitism has once again become normalized — BitconnectCarlos
Yes I see this. But I also see an arms race in the Middle East though (on the assumption that Israel continues with the ethnic cleansing and remains defiant). They would become a fortress bristling with weapons. Presumably they would want US bases in Israel too. — Punshhh
One thing we have to remember is that Israel's neighbors are Third World countries, and so is Iran too. They simply don't have the economy to really compete with Israel. That they end up like Iraq or Syria is a far likely possibility than them becoming so powerful to really take on (again) Israel.
All right. I would still add that for both Palestinians and Israelis the problem is not just the idea of being historically wronged and dispossessed but also the pursuit of a political status, that of a nation state (very much a Western idea). And nation state formation has been historically proven to be very bloody, if not genocidal. Besides there is the clash of religious factions that is complicating things from biblical times, so not strictly related to the wrongs that the Jewish people suffered in their recent history or Palestinians suffered from the recent history of the Zionist project.
Box cutters. And I think the heavy laden with fuel passenger jets were the actual weapons.But the biggest attack on the US since WW2 was carried out with a camping knife. — Punshhh
How so? Arab League countries have come a long way from the Khartoum Resolution. So why this assumption of any interaction being impossible?But if they are defiant against their neighbours then they will have to be an isolated fortress. A sitting duck bristling with weapons. Any interaction with their neighbors would compromise their security. — Punshhh
How so?
1 in 5 in Gen Z believe the holocaust to be a myth. — BitconnectCarlos
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