the pleasure of unearned moral superiority. — Thorongil
Have I offended you, or are you a gratuitous shit merchant? — unenlightened
Perhaps you can help? — unenlightened
Well yeah, clearly from that member that told you to fuck off. That member is literarily quite deluded, and has proven to be someone who lives in their own hateful world, totally unaware of what exists around them. And this isn't even the first time!One of the moderators told me he was getting complaints about me from member X. I concluded that I should, could, and would leave member X alone. Ignore, not comment on, not annoy further. — Bitter Crank
So what's dangerous about it? I think the Church should welcome homosexual people, and I do think homosexual people have gifts and qualities that are valuable too. We should certainly treat homosexuals with kindness and respect, so long as they're not of the violent leftist kind. — Agustino
Excuse me unenlightened, we all know that this isn't the first time you've tried to pull off a shameful public stunt to get rid of me. Who do you think believes you now? Probably even you yourself have stopped believing in it.I don't think that is a good policy, for two reasons. 1. It can't be done; some people are more tolerant of abuse than others. Typically it is a learned male trait to 'take it like a man', so it disadvantages half the population at a stroke. 2. Kevin is contagious: call me a dick and I'll likely call you one back, and when people who like to call other people dicks find that they can call people dicks, you end up with threads full of dicks calling dicks dicks. — unenlightened
I did. I said you need to ignore Kevin, as several other people have suggested you do. — Thorongil
So I am assuming that "Kevin" refers to at least one actual flesh and blood member... — 0 thru 9
it's all been done before
It's all written in the book — Bob Dylan
So tell me unenlightened, if there is an extremist around who cannot bear to have conversation with those who disagrees with them, and actually - through the statements they make - show that they have an utterly false view of the world, should we peddle to their insecurities? If so, why? If they want to leave, that is fine - nobody can keep them here by force if they don't want to. But this is a philosophy forum where you have to meet with and discuss RESPECTFULLY with people who are different from you. I have shown that I am interested to and open to discuss with such members. But I don't appreciate when they spread false information about me, when they are persistently judgemental, and show no willingness to frankly talk and work together on issues. I've earned the respect of the people that I have earned it precisely by being open to rational conversation and listening to their views respectfully, even when I disagree. And I disagree with most people here more often than not.I wish you would be a little more considerate, but I do not want you banned. — unenlightened
Typically it is a learned male trait to 'take it like a man', so it disadvantages half the population at a stroke. — unenlightened
I hope you are not suggesting that we have an unmoderated forum? — unenlightened
I don't think we need to talk about Kevin. I think there's been too much talk as of late on topics such as Kevin and his alleged misdemeanours, and much of it has amounted to petty squabbles, mudslinging, and hot air. I'm getting sick of it, and I think it's about time that we all moved on. In fact, I think it's long overdue. Kevin isn't as bad as people make out. He isn't a murderer. Yes, he did wrong. So did the other Kevins. But what's done is done. If there are lessons to be learned, how about we contemplate what they might be - in blessed silence. — Sapientia
But take someone like Bitter Crankus. I highly respect BC and if I was the owner of this forum, quite honestly BC would be a moderator. And yet I disagree with him on most everything. — Agustino
I don't think we need to talk about Kevin. — Sapientia
Not so much for his philosophical expertise — unenlightened
Kevin isn't as bad as people make out. I don't think that he's a murderer, or at least, he doesn't mean to be. — Sapientia
Well yeah, clearly from that member that told you to fuck off. — Agustino
That's a big "if" you got there - an exaggeration and a hypothetical hardly worth considering. — Sapientia
Enter the "too much of nothing" problem mentioned by Dylan. — Bitter Crank
this is the kind of person who literarily thinks - listen to this please - that everyone else thinks I'm a sexist. — Agustino
Hey,I'm just following the conversation. I haven't a clue who Kevin or the other Kevins are, or the petty squabbles and mudslingings (which have no place here anyway). For all I know I could be the one and only "Kevin". — Metaphysician Undercover
But if Kevin's a murderer, then Kevin's a murderer, whether he means to be a murderer or not. — Metaphysician Undercover
Suppose we're all fictitious characters here. We put on an act, and this is who we are at tpf. MU's not the real me, who I am in real life, and Sapientia's not who you are in real life. Kevin is murdering at tpf. Is this part of Kevin's act, or is Kevin a bad actor and he's allowing his true self to show through? Either he's a bad actor or he's acting badly, what's the difference? — Metaphysician Undercover
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