Unfortunately such replies seem to be quite common here many times."Only a moron would think that!!!" — Srap Tasmaner
I agree.My point has only been that we should be mindful of not only the philosophical import of our words, but their effect on the health of the forum. It's a matter of faith, perhaps, that the latter would also lead in the long run to better philosophy. — Srap Tasmaner
I think in today's world, especially on college campuses in the US, I can imagine it can go that way, precisely because so much of sexism is focused on women's issues in our culture, and men are viewed as the culprits and the sexists very often. So it is absolutely possible that men will be labeled sexists as a form of bullying, even when they're not.I hadn't really thought about it because it usually doesn't go in that direction and I don't expect it to be a problem. — Baden
My point has only been that we should be mindful of not only the philosophical import of our words, but their effect on the health of the forum. It's a matter of faith, perhaps, that the latter would also lead in the long run to better philosophy. — Srap Tasmaner
So it is absolutely possible that men will be labeled sexists as a form of bullying, even when they're not. — Agustino
Well that depends what you mean, but I suppose that would hold true on a macro-scale, though even in such a society there would be places where black prejudice dominates at the micro level. The ideal is to have no prejudice dominate, that's what we should be looking to approach.In a white dominated society (dominated by sheer numbers and by status) the prejudices of black folks do not prevail, the prejudices of white folks do. — unenlightened
Well that depends how they are used. It's not very difficult at all to slip into a "police-state" kind of place that simply eliminates any kind of dissent based simply on labels of sexism - "because one (or multiple) woman said so and we can't question how women feel about sexism". There needs to be a degree of rational discussion - it seems to me that you presuppose that we have to take special care of minorities because we can't have rational discussion about the issues to decide what is right/wrong. But who took "special care" of me for example? I'm a minority here with regards to religion AND politics. As far as I remember, in the very beginning I fought for myself, and because of that more religious and conservative people have spoken up.And in this forum, the combined prejudices of every single woman, even augmented by such powerful voices as my own, are not going to seriously harm or inhibit anyone. — unenlightened
I agree.White male leftwing atheists predominate here, and especially in a philosophy forum, they, we, should welcome and nurture otherness of culture and background to challenge our preconceptions. — unenlightened
Interesting story. Yes, no doubt some concepts - like that of a princess in Western society - seem to be associated with white people. Is that a problem? I don't think it's anymore of a problem than the fact that in India a princess is associated with a dark-colored woman, and in China with an Asian-looking woman and so forth. It's absolutely normal in other words. It's based on the local culture.a little story — unenlightened
From the outside of the magic moderating circle, (and actually from the inside too), one does not really know how many complaints have been made, how seriously, and how many folks have just moved on, and how many are struggling to maintain a discussion in the face of Kevin's naughtiness. For moderators and members alike it is easier and safer and stirs up less controversy to do nothing. — unenlightened
I'm so sorry. For you, for the ignoramuses of the forum, including myself. I'm crying.
Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone? — unenlightened
You could and ought to just ignore him, as someone else in this thread suggested, but that would require giving up the pleasure of unearned moral superiority. — Thorongil
One of the moderators told me he was getting complaints about me from member X. I concluded that I should, could, and would leave member X alone. Ignore, not comment on, not annoy further. — Bitter Crank
Females today are not fragile little creatures needing your protection. — Thorongil
Of all of the forums that I've ever participated in, this is the only one with genuinely effective moderation, ...and with moderation that isn't abused.
Michael Ossipoff — Michael Ossipoff
I never complained about you sweetheart >:O >:O >:OOne of the moderators told me he was getting complaints about me from member X — Bitter Crank
I never complained about you sweetheart — Agustino
It's not fair that you ask me to get off your foot when the only off is off the edge of the cliff - that's not very caring of you... >:ONor I of you. I tell you my issue to your face, in real time, so we are on fair footing.
Now get off of my foot! :P — ArguingWAristotleTiff
You are right in that we "are not fragile little creatures" but I can tell you that losing one lady is a HUGE loss when we have less than five ladies regularly on the boards. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Not only is this rude but I think it is completely uncalled for. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
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