A ‘bit’ of information in a computer system, as I described earlier, refers to the capacity or potential for an event in a specific system — Possibility

Don't think so. A zero or one (or combinations thereof) in a computer is a physical structure (a potential, an electron in one of two states, etc.) which we assign a meaning. This information is not inherent.

The difference that makes a difference. — Possibility

What difference? Between what? What you consider an event?

The information in a computer system, therefore, refers to an event — Possibility

Not neccessarily. It depends on what we asdign to the patterns of potentials and currents.

as does a wavefunction — Possibility

The wavefunction contains no information. It just directs the particle around, The particle hops around within the bounds of the wavefunction.

Don’t be fooled by the rendered appearance of either. — Possibility

Indeed, beware!

However, racist white Americans were/are prone to be anti anything non-white, whereas the Nazis targeted Jewish people. — creativesoul

The nazis were against every other color. Hitler didn't shake the hand of Jesse Owens, and in nazi Germany there weren't a lot of black people living. The ideology still has considerable influence. Weren't 10 black people shot this week in the US?

The US adopted the German model of bureaucracy that shifts power from the individual to the state and the corporation. In 1958 the National Defense Education Act replace the US liberal education with the German model of education for technology for military and industrial purpose. That is to say, we have the institutions of our world war enemy and every night in the news we hear about one horrible thing after another, and the reporters are asking what went wrong? Why are these terrible things happening? They are clueless about the fact that the US has imitated Germany in every significant way so now we are what we fought against, and Trump is our Hitler complete with thugs, not because Trump is who he is, but because a large percentage of the citizens what such a man to rule over all of us. — Athena

That's indeed the red pill of the deepest red! Great thread. And we let our children still go to school? To turn them from colorful, playful little humans into brainwashed and programmed grey objectively thinking copies of the schemes the powers have in mind? Dear mother of gods...

I have recently received some feedback from other users complaining that the debate of some threads were a complete waste of time — javi2541997

I don't think it was a waste of time. We discussed the gods, the origin, and the meaning of life! :wink:

The most shallow vessels make the loudest noise.
You are lost! — universeness

On the contrary! Im found! And ahead of my time, insofar physics is concerned.

The idea that the ultimate answers to physical questions must either be infinity or nothing doesn't convey a satisfactory understanding to our minds, does it? — ASmallTalentForWar

Who has that idea then? Isn't the idea that, for example, the big bang arises from a state of infinite density a sign that something's wrong?

Hermann Minkowski (spacetime) is gonna turn in his grave.
10m — Agent Smith

If he has enough space! :lol:

The most shallow vessels make the loudest noise.
You are lost — universeness

Then your vessel makes the sound of an exploding atom bomb! :lol:

The most shallow vessels make the loudest noise.
You are lost! — universeness

On the contrary, Im ahead of my time. I cant help my cosmology is not understood or put down.

Not worth my time anymore, I tried! — universeness

You tried? What did you try?

Is that all you got, Caesar?

Right back at ya! except, I would suggest you try to be more open-minded and not so convinced that your musings are correct — universeness

And why should I think my musings are not correct?

would suggest you try to be more open-minded — universeness

Me being more open minded? Jesus brither Uni...

Right back at ya! except, I would suggest you try to be more open-minded and not so convinced that your musings are correct just because they came from you — universeness

If you knew some physics you would see the DIMP guy talks woowoo!

Especially when your credibility is already compromised Mr roleplaying athiest. — universeness

You are the roleplaying atheist. What credibility you talk about? Not being "peer reviewed" or an article on my name? Well, then you're credible...

You say the effect is instant but the speed of light is finite, so what's your point? — universeness

Just think brother Uni, and dont be such an obedient slave to the scientific dogmas!

This means nothing, a photon travels as an excitation of the Universal EM field! — universeness

But it works instantaneously. There is no space and no time. If you travel with near speed of light to another galaxy, youll arrive in a short time. Almost instantaneously (,when no CMBR were present).

That's like asking how can an ocean absorb a raindrop! Because the ocean is made of water! — universeness

In the ocean, there is no drop anymore. In the virtual macroscopic EM field the photons are still there.

Virtual particles are mathematical only they don't exist in reality! — universeness

The standard dkgma. There are enlightened physicists who don't agree. Of course they are real. Only not observable directly. Only indirectly.

And, yet, there are still aborigines in Australia. And Sioux in America. — ASmallTalentForWar

Living in state controlled land, drinking booze, robbed from their culture and nature. All hail to the western way.

And, indeed, nothing about a photon changes in the course of its existence. — javi2541997

A photon works instantaneously. If it's send out herd on Earth, it instantaneously hits the universe. The finite speed of light though is what prevents everything happening at once and makes mass and space possible. If the speed of light were infinite, the it would all be over in a flash.

A thousand times??? We have never exchanged regarding photon absorption — universeness

Yes! Charged particles couple to the photon field. The photon field is just a field that lays in the vacuum and is used by charged particles to interact. Two electrons couple to a virtual photon, the photon then is alone again, having changed the momenta of the electrons. A real photon is, in a sense, a long lived virtual photon. It couples charges and returns tk virtual loneliness. No absorption. There is only momentum transfer. The momentum is absorbed, not the photon. The return from real to virtual is called, wrongly, absorption.

It's all over physics sites and in any physics textbooks. Your viewpoint is totally fringe, not mine — universeness

How can an EM field absorb photons? The field is made of photons. The classical EM field is a chimera. Jesus brither Uni, dont follow the physics bibles blindly... "its in all the books" yes, then it's true!

Plausible yes but I don't see why I had to be online at the moment you send a PM with a physics question. I would have noticed the PM as soon as I came online. — universeness

So I should have written it immediately after the offer? "The offer stands for 12 hours only!"?

This means that, in terms of Special Relativity, time does not pass in the frame of reference of the photon — javi2541997

The photon has no frame of reference.

Photons get absorbed by the EM fields — universeness

Nonsense! An EM field that absorbs photons? WTF wrote that?

How can a photon be absorbed then? — universeness

I have told you a thousand times: a photon isnt absorbed! This is the wrong popular view.

Of course we were — universeness

We were! I just saw you were online!

Check your mail... We were writing at the same time!

You could push away the popping into existence to an infinite past, but that doesn't mean the universe wasn't created. The 4d structure on which two 3d universes inflate (emerge) periodically, is itself no subjected to thermodynamic time. The structure fluctuates in time and is too dumb to create it's own existence. To say its an eternal structure makes sense only from the emergent thermodynamic, unidirectional time perspective, as experiences in the two universes emerging on it periodically (each new pair with a new beginning in time). The question is: who the fuck made that 4d structure? Answer: gods created it to run a material version of the eternal etherical heaven on. In one big bang after another. Maybe there just was a first big bang, maybe we live in the zillionth...

Information is anything that stands out from a background of infinity or nothing, but the ultimate paradox is that infinity is nothing. — ASmallTalentForWar

I can't agree more. The entropy contained in a solid at 0 kelvin is zero and the entropy of that same solid in an ultrahot gas sate goes to infinity. Both states are the same though, in the sense that they are easy to describe. If you know a small part you know all parts (of course the degrees of freedom are each other's inverses, but this only goes to show that total freedom is related to total order). The most interesting state of the material lies between the two extreme temperatures.

Nowadays the debate is about the meaning of super-position and how the same particle can be in two places at once. — Wayfarer

Which is obvious nonsense! How can a particle be at two places together? It can't! Thats why an alternative QM is needed.

In future there will probably be scathing references to string theory as an example of the degenerate nature of 21st c physics — Wayfarer

The future is now. Strings are woowoo supreme.

Now listen javitwofivefouroneninenineseven, just because we had a kind exchange doesn't mean we ďeserve to die! Dear sister of god...

If the discussion were substantive, that would be fine, but... — T Clark

...but it wasn't? Brother Clark, how substantial you want to get? The very existence of gods and the reason for existence was discussed... In one-liners, okay, thats true...

What information is contained in the wavefunction?
— Hillary
Statistical Information. We call — Gnomon

I don't think think structures and forms contain information. Entropy yes. A wavefunctions is just a collection of hidden variables with a specific form which is continuously changing shape. Collapsing, taking shape in potentials, It's shape influences the particle directly. There is no information contained in the sense that it refers to something else than the particle, like the information in a computer refers to things we define, giving it meaning.

Performative contradiction. — 180 Proof

A reason a performative contradiction? I would say the lack of reason is an explosive irrationality. The gods could just gather globally and collectively speak the word. The logos was created.

Besides, "String Theory" isn't the only game in town — 180 Proof

Which only goes to show that woowoo is told.

And "creationism" — 180 Proof

Creationism is another doctrine. You really think they created us? Only the fundaments.

This statement is incoherent. Spacetime is emergent and "the question of where from" assumes space. — 180 Proof

Dear mother of god... Now look here, ceramic conductor, the 3d space and accompanying thermodynamic time emerge on a higher dimensional pre-existing infinite quantum vacuum which itself is TD time-less. The question is where this came from. There is only one reason it exists. The specific geometrical structure including the fundamental virtual particles whirling in it, has only one reason that it exists: guess who deliver the reason?

NB: The only "reason for existence" that does not beg the question (i.e. an infinite regress) – that is rational – is that there is no reason for existence. — 180 Proof

No reason begs the question just as well. Why is there no reason? Why exist the universe and life in it without reason? Why is the universe irrational? Because its irrational? Even more irrational. The only rational explanation is gods, who don't need further reason to exist.

Tunneling from a false vacuum — 180 Proof

False vacua are woowoo ad hoc. The question is where the quantum vacuum came from. There is the game with the central wormhole. If you let it have a Planck width, connect two 4d quantum vacua, the 3d confined matter, geometrical Planck structures itself, can emerge together with thermidynamic time. The 4d wormhole vacuum is eternal and timeless. It has to be created by the gods.