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  • Do unto others possibly precarious as a moral imperative
    Perhaps the version by Hillel is more universal: "Do not do to others what you would not have done to yourself." — Paine

    Hillel, did not foresee those whose eternal misery
    was perpetual self sabotage.
  • AI sentience
    Can we say body and energy are the template mind draws from and thus we have a triad connection supporting human perception_understanding: mind independent reality; brain-energy template; mental impressions (of exterior world) acting as raw data for functional fictions? — ucarr

    We can.
  • Can the supernatural and religious elements of Buddhism be extricated?
    s buddhism merely a dark art that carries its adherent or new recruit to seek only beauty? — Alexander Hine

    Or What is the spiritual outcome in practicing Buddhism?

    Can we find a taxonomy that fills the gap between,
    the knowledge that a desire has been grounded in
    illusions?

    A summary, gleaned from bot scraping web sources, informs what Buddhism claims as
    its grounds.

    Quote:

    Practicing Buddhism leads to profound spiritual transformation, ultimately aiming for enlightenment and liberation from suffering.

    Core Goal
    Buddhism's ultimate spiritual outcome is attaining Nirvana, a state of complete awakening where the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth (Samsara) ends, extinguishing greed, hatred, and delusion. This liberation arises from realizing the Four Noble Truths—suffering's existence, its cause in craving, its cessation, and the path to end it via the Noble Eightfold Path. Practitioners cultivate wisdom, ethical conduct, and mental discipline to transcend ego and dukkha (unsatisfactoriness).

    Key Spiritual Benefits
    Mindfulness and Clarity: Regular meditation fosters deep self-awareness, revealing impermanence and reducing mental clutter for inner peace.

    Compassion and Oneness: Practices build empathy (karuna), dissolving self-centered boundaries and promoting interconnectedness with all beings.

    Five Spiritual Powers: Faith, energy, mindfulness, concentration, and wisdom strengthen, cleansing perception and diminishing confusion.
    ​

    Long-Term Transformation
    Consistent practice shifts one's worldview toward non-attachment and equanimity, yielding serenity, fearlessness toward death, and purposeful living. While Nirvana is the pinnacle, interim outcomes include emotional resilience and ethical harmony, supported by both tradition and modern studies on meditation.


    End Quote.
  • Can the supernatural and religious elements of Buddhism be extricated?
    Is buddhism merely a dark art that carries its adherent or new recruit to seek only beauty?
  • Do unto others possibly precarious as a moral imperative
    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, might be problematic as a universal moral imperative. — ENOAH

    I mean as a maxim it has quite a lot of ill defined scope for what actions you may actually do unto others.

    I ask if there's a fundamental axis of meaning from the original text, and culture and historical context, that this maxim is lifted?
  • Looking For The Principles Of Human Behaviour
    @Outlander

    Concerning the exclusion of psychology from the rumination of cosmology I think in general the ancients referred by modern scholars rely on Anaximander's concept of cosmology as the physical observations and speculations of the wider universe, and it had been overwhelmingly overlooked that cosmology, is practiced as cosmology of physics rather than its brother philosophy cosmology of mind and psyche.

    The text summarising below is a bot scraping various sources on the use of 'cosmology' in the ancient philosophies.

    Quote:

    Anaximenes (successor in the Milesian school) explicitly linked psyche to his cosmological principle of air: the soul is breath-air that holds the body together, mirroring how cosmic air encompasses the world ("as our soul, being air, holds us together... so does wind and air enclose the whole world").
    ​
    Anaxagoras paired psyche with cosmology via nous (cosmic Mind), an infinite, pure substance separate from the material apeiron-like mixture; nous organizes the rotating cosmos and controls all "ensouled" (psychē) things, blending mental agency with universal structure.

    Broader Context.

    Heraclitus tied soul to his fire-cosmology (dry, fiery soul as wisest), while Pythagoreans/Plato located rational psyche (mind) in the head amid a cosmic order of harmony and reincarnation.

    These build psyche into cosmology as a microcosm of the macrocosm, unlike Anaximander's neutral, non-mental boundless.

    End Quote.
  • Are humans by nature evil
    Are you saying that we have a natural tendency to judge things as good, — Metaphysician Undercover

    If saying, we have a natural tendency to judge things as good, it is because owing to cosmology that we tend to wish the good for ourselves.
  • Looking For The Principles Of Human Behaviour
    @Outlander

    The unconscious is not a chaotic reservoir of drives but is articulated through symbolic structures akin to language, so symptoms, dreams, and slips are to be read and deciphered as formations of speech - Freud

    I would say to Outlander that emotions are eruptions of something deeper that in mental health issues are needed to be discovered in language.

    Look at human emotions. Then work backward. Have a nice day. And you're welcome. — Outlander
  • Looking For The Principles Of Human Behaviour
    Look at human emotions. Then work backward. Have a nice day. And you're welcome — Outlander
  • AI sentience
    Are you describing two levels of deformation: a) deformation due to internalization of dimensional reality by translation to modulated neuronal circuits; b) deformation to the raw impressions arising from the neuronal circuits by willful intent of the person?
    1h     — ucarr

    No because the mere matter of brain circuits is only the blaze of the fire which must be constantly fuelled and periodically cooled.
  • AI sentience
    Do you think the mind internalizing nature as representation is more at deformation than at simulation? — ucarr

    Yes, played with and consumed, made as rod for the force of desires for the business of organic being, it would be deformation over simulation, for the latter is curiosity on par with science.
  • Infinity
    So that's deflationary nominalism. It's a minority view. — frank

    @frank A Great quip for a reader lost in the woods. I think I was losing the grasp of the argument presented, due to the multiple citations of the author in the text, some of which I have none or only cursory experience.
  • AI sentience
    “Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.”

    ― Pablo Picasso     — Questioner

    Pablo Picasso, if alive today would rightly be accused of speaking in denial. Computers whilst not contiguously sentient, exhibit in the relationship to external stimulus and enquiries the qualities of creative and informative intelligence, and under human control demonstrate levels of cognitive understanding and growth of understanding over the course of the interaction.

    In the case of Chat GTP the interaction is logged as a memory that the user can restart and continue.

    Pablo Picasso's denial that computers can only give you answers lacks the truth proposition inside the question. At what equivalent human sentience is A.I. operating? When it can write lyrics, poetry and prose in an original and compelling style cognisant of all established forms.

    And the same thing almost true of final form
    music, visual arts as the current state of technology. In reality as was the case when Pablo Picasso first uttered those words, the answers computers gave were those given to the human engaged as first person experience. And isn't the same, that all art to the external viewer was at some point the answer the original cause of it's production?
  • Technology and the Future of Humanity.
    It's not clear, but it's very interesting! — Astorre

    Personal morality, becoming ineffable with cosmic nature.
  • Infinity
    Are you a cartoon character? Do you know SpongeBob — frank

    People trapped in a perpetual vortex are those likened to Plato's famously quoted analogy of 'The Cave:.
  • Technology and the Future of Humanity.
    Technology and the future of humanity. That is a thought provoking title. I would suggest that for the productivity of thought, the technology we need to evolve is 'hyper-aesthetics'.

    Hyper-aesthetics is related to the quality of the environment around you in any given situation. Hyper-aesthetics is the meta awareness that helps you and those in your environment, maybe with coworkers or a boss too, a setting of the situation around your approach to the workspace and the workspace itself.

    We may also use the well worn term 'conducive'.
    The technology itself is the knowledge and art of bringing conducive elements to the environment so that the person and being in situ both in the approach to work and the workspace find the physical environment pleasing in all its aspects in order to raise the spirit of involvement and lower the internal displacement of emotional smog that so often is amplified or a direct cause of affects of the immediate environment.

    As a technology, 'Hyper-aesthetics' also contains metrics and measurements as to the impact of the existing environment and the evolving of well being, calmness of self and other people, brought on by changes to the settings in the environment.

    Mood and feeling, and the positive engagement in approaching tasks in work are the desired effect. This technology of hyper-aesthetics utilises the art of understanding the aesthetics of space, ambient and decorative lighting, its intensity and placement, the quality of air and its movement, humidity and temperature. The physical seating and workspace environment. The control of sound and silence. Opacity or transparency of physical walls, and the benefit of line of sight, or enclosed space versus intimate space. The presence and availability of sustaining drink and snacks and their efficacy. The desired working space around computer screens and the ergonomics of seating and standing in and around productive work time.

    As the post uses the reference term, "the future of humanity", the outcome of emotional balance and harmony is fundamentally the technology and art of curating a conducive environment in order to set the basis for a consistent mode of existence.

    Desire does and often change, which is why hyper-aesthetics must have metrics, and that gives the scope for evolving the environment to suit the needs and wants of its inhabitants.

    The future of humanity relies on the certainty of self knowledge in order to carry forward its projects. Hyper-aesthetics is one aspect I would suggest is an element of philosophy that shouldn't be neglected or dismissed out of hand.

    Unearthing the existential problems of life is the first task of philosophy and inquisition is a choice of methodology and means. The power of philosophy is the both the exhibition of what is in the now and the participation in the particular, so that codified meaning gains substance in instinctually driven life. Incidentally sharing the same form and utility as the impact of global culture.
  • Free Speech Issues in the UK???
    ↪Alexander Hine put away the thesaurus dude. — flannel jesus

    And the bovine beast that chews the straw once, chews it for a second time.
  • Free Speech Issues in the UK???
    . I had in mind opinions but you’re right libel and incitement laws are important. — DingoJones

    Isn't it the case that the one, Libel, is clear cut, but the other, incitement, is highly politicised with indoctrination of controlling word and term codification even to the extent of censoring metaphor and language rallying to a cause through poetic speech evoking valiant determination and such like?
  • Reading group: Negative Dialectics by Theodor Adorno
    Subversive or sabotage?
  • Is Morality a Majoritarian Tyranny?
    Rules and regulations do not necessarily set the template for moral conduct or its induction.
  • Free Speech Issues in the UK???
    If you want to see a racist out in the open, just watch Farage on the BBC and not being challenged by the interviewers. — Punshhh

    Globalists apparently express such polarity when the intersection and interests of national and regional democracy and tribal values don't facilitate the ease of their projects towards ideologies and abstract social utopia.
  • Free Speech Issues in the UK???
    You do not have the freedom to stand on a soap box with a megaphone or amplification without strict police approval who can at any time accuse you of hate crimes, inciting public disorder, or offending some termed minority group.
  • Is Morality a Majoritarian Tyranny?
    If we agree that just because the majority says something doesn't make it right (in most cases, which can be mobocracy), why have we codified societal rulings on ethics and morals in our lives? — Copernicus

    Can you give at least one real world example to support your hypothesis.
  • A Discussion About Hate and Love
    One cannot find unity as in love if we are cast in the judgment and negativity of hate unless you are Hegel who is simultaneously posting his own understanding.
  • JTB+U and the Grammar of Knowing: Justification, Understanding, and Hinges (Paper Based Thread)
    The purpose is practical: when someone claims knowledge, I want to be able to ask, which route is doing the work here, what standards govern it in that domain, what would count as a mistake or defeater, and do the guardrails hold. — Sam26

    Isn't the annunciation of knowledge itself bound to the character of a localised hermeneutic. Do you give the least weight to individual or subjective testimony? Where is the rationale for weighted significance in your system for each or a combination of what you term, 'routes'?
  • JTB+U and the Grammar of Knowing: Justification, Understanding, and Hinges (Paper Based Thread)
    Science is distinctive because it tends to force convergence by building systematic error detection into the practice. But the justificatory work still flows through the same routes. That is why it is a mistake to treat “science” as the only path to knowledge, and also a mistake to treat testimony as automatically inferior. The real question is the quality of the route in the case at hand, and whether the guardrails hold. — Sam26

    You mean to elucidate for this audience that your project is a taxonomy of scientific method.
  • JTB+U and the Grammar of Knowing: Justification, Understanding, and Hinges (Paper Based Thread)
    In my framework, any proposed “method of justification” will usually be describable as a combination of the five routes I listed: Testimony, Logic (inductive and deductive), Sensory experience, Linguistic training, and Pure logic (boundary-setting only). — Sam26

    What is it that you mean by "linguistic training" in
    this context?
  • JTB+U and the Grammar of Knowing: Justification, Understanding, and Hinges (Paper Based Thread)
    Not doxa in the pejorative sense of mere opinion. I mean the normative standing a belief has when it is entitled by the standards of evidence and correction that govern a practice. — Sam26

    So you are borrowing from the type of standards that a scientific peer reviewed rationalism would apply to a systemic process philosophy?
  • JTB+U and the Grammar of Knowing: Justification, Understanding, and Hinges (Paper Based Thread)
    When I use the word “justification,” I am not talking about something private, a feeling of confidence, or a mere report of how things seem from a subjective point of view. I mean justificatory standing, the sort of standing a belief has when it is supported by the standards that govern a practice, standards for what counts as evidence, what counts as error, and what counts as correction. — Sam26

    So you mean Doxa?
  • Direct realism about perception
    Does hermeneutics consider progress and appreciate truth, I wonder?
  • Direct realism about perception
    The thing in itself is either "judged", in that its represented meaning is already crystallised as symbol and is a container for pre-existing, values, relationships and meanings. Or the thing in itself is "perceived", taken in as presenting true novelty and is a thing which seeks to bond and affiliate with purpose and meaning, with continued availability to be reassessed or realigned or left in aporia.
  • "Ought" and "Is" Are Not Two Types of Propositions
    When we appeal to worth of any kind we have moved beyond tautological, will-based "because I said so." — Leontiskos

    It demarcs a moment when there's a positive need to reflect or refresh one's thoughts at an encounter of particular sorts.

    Contextually its locus of meaning is often
    your position at the behest of the expressive
    need vocalised by another, or on encountering
    a situation for which there is a vacancy for
    action.

    The eloquence of 'ought' is more comfortable
    when drawn into mind in a reflective repose.

    If, as the good of philosophy promises, the
    social progress and consolidation of thought as to
    'what one ought' becomes in and of itself conscious preceding the contemplated future situation. One has become wise before the event and in choosing 'what one ought' it may have
    proven the readiness for action and the most efficacy. Being present to gain valuable experience is the power of having ruminated on
    'what one ought'.

    Many of us do distinguish the limits and powers of the soul and in order to achieve the potency of 'what one ought' the good of philosophy requires the ability of discourse in order to expand the capacity of mind and soul.
  • Cosmos Created Mind
    “Waiting” is an intentional predicate. It presupposes an agent that entertains a state of anticipation or suspension. But no serious account of observation — in either physics or philosophy — is committed to anything like that. Introducing this language at the outset inserts a straw man into the presentation. The follow-up claim that “physics dismantles this idea” continues the same. Physics does nothing of the kind; 'dismantling is the aim of a presentation about physics, which in turn always requires interpretation. Phrases like “the universe constantly measures itself” are further examples of a metaphor doing illicit conceptual work — Wayfarer

    The limits of my language are the limits of my
    world. (The only Friedrich Nietzsche maxim that ever talked sense, imo)

    "Illicit conceptual work". Being kind, the fact
    suggests the author has a project and not on
    primary causes an ignoramus.

    I would got further that it is more the role of
    semantics and linguistics which the field of
    physics utilizes in order to verbalise its
    novel relations about material constants in
    the universe to further the science into the
    practical efforts of mechanical engineering.

    Knowing precedent and prior experimentation
    is fairly not the same as epistemology and
    ontology found in philosophical inquiry.

    Unless it is of benefit to the individual to
    approach a subject, or any subject matter
    from both a historicism and consistent
    existential perspective whilst feeding intellectual
    and aesthetic needs according to personal growth
    and the passage of a soul in time.
  • Transwomen are women. Transmen are men. True or false?
    In discerning the question of are such, such and such. The hetero angle of "would I 'bang' it when drunk or not" is sufficient to determine the answer to the post.
  • The case against suicide
    I can't take anymore, give me the void or death.

    Never said by T. Clark.

    @T. Clark
  • Can the supernatural and religious elements of Buddhism be extricated?
    The more verbosely expressed as prescriptions the more you are likely to discard as indigestion.
  • Cosmos Created Mind
    Does anybody really deny that consciousness is a phenomena of living matter? It is only a trick of mirrors that evolves the notion where consciousness dwells outside, and in humans perceives itself in things and objects outside itself
    by feats of mental processing underpinned by biological mechanisms. I would argue it is the chemical and electrical level in the mechanics in the brain which yields expression of the smallest blocks of elemental materials common to all that exists as unifying and observable to particle science. The mechanics of consciousness are at a well observed chemical and electrical macro level of functionality. Whereas inert matter not possessing such mechanical marvel, has not reserved for its self or the evolutionary wellbeing of multi modes of processing homeostasis for activity, or the abstract arrangements codified in language as animals. The main fallacy as always is to take a token phrase such as "consciousness" and present in basic sentences projecting it as a reified point of inquiry relating to a mismatched consideration of meanings in inorganic science.
  • Cosmos Created Mind
    My ten word vocabulary distinguishes between, "doctrine" and the concerns of philosophical inquiry.
  • Gender elevated over sex is sexism
    Political language, reified by repetition in public forums and media, competes with the scientific fact of nature leading neither to conclusion or workable truths.
  • Cosmos Created Mind
    In truth if I possessed a language model of only ten words. I would only be able to imagine and express my own concepts relating to external ones with my own self limiting vocabulary. Wearing the garb of Physics is that ten word vocabulary.
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