"In principle" there is not any fact of the matter that can make the statement true. At most, it's a supposition expressed (confusedly) in a declarative, or categorical, form (as philosophers are wont to do).Let's take one of your previous examples (of a philosophical statement that you say is non-propositional): "Consciousness is fundamentaltoreality"^^. Are you saying that, in principle, that statement is not truth-apt? — Bob Ross
Yes, of course.Are you, likewise, saying it is a non-cognitive statement?
:100: :fire:Netanyahu helped create Hamas, just like the US helped create Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc.
He used Hamas specifically to sabotage the PLO to avoid having serious talks about two-state solutions and other peace plans.
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The US committed de facto genocide in Vietnam, and it wasn't enough to secure them victory.
This method (sadly) has been tried, and it has failed every time. turning the perpetrators into the very monsters they claimed they were fighting. — Tzeentch
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. — reportedly spoken by the commander of the Albigensian Crusade, prior to the massacre at Béziers on 22 July 1209
:100: :fire:The Trump anomaly is a symptom, not the disease or the cause. All he, as a deeply disturbed individual, wants is attention - all of it, all the time, by any means - and he's getting it whether he succeeds or fails in his aspirations, whether he steals from a city or a charity, whether he keeps a promise to his allies or throws them under buses, whether he gets legislation passed or vetoes it, whether he supports or opposes the constitution, whether he commits misdemeanors, of felonies or treason, whether he faces prosecution or evades it.
Whether he wants a war - class, civil or foreign - is immaterial. It's going to happen, because that's the inevitable devolution of events from 1963 to the present.
Trump could never have been able to get the first nomination, had the GOP not reached that level of jingoism, corruption and craven conformity. He could not have stirred up the yahoos at his rallies, had they not already been mustered and enraged by a long line of his predecessors. He could not have squeaked through that election, had the voting procedures not already been fatally compromised by state level tampering.
Everything, at least from the Kennedy assassination, through the Civil Rights movement and opposition to the Viet Nam war has been leading up to a Trump or something like him. If he drops dead tomorrow, or is incarcerated (as any other citizen with his record would have been, years ago) or withdraws from politics, it will make no difference to the march of events. — Vera Mont
:roll: You've conjured up a distinction without a difference, BobI am not talking about truth-bearing statements but, rather, truth-apt statements, which appear to be different: the former is a proposition which is true, which clearly indicates the need of a truth-maker, and the latter is merely the capacity to be true or false. — Bob Ross
Neither. Both rationalize murdering each other's children.Who would you prefer babysit your toddler? Israel or Hamas? — RogueAI
Neither. Both states are run by religious extremists.More to the point, who would you trust as a nuclear power, Israel or Iran?
:up:Agreed, science pursues knowledge. Knowledge is our most logical way of being concurrent with truth, but cannot assert that it is truth itself. — Philosophim
:up:When the structural elements are riddled with dry rot, I don't waste my time plastering the walls. — Vera Mont
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/846860 Amen! :halo:Blessed are those who do God's work. — Fooloso4
... but mostly, friend, they willingly live likeAt our best, I think humans ... — universeness
:smirk:You are struggling as best you can, for the sake of all of us, yes?
— universeness
Hell, no! All of yous are on your own.
Are you not still a secular democratic socialist?
— universeness
Nope. Cynical, burnt-out iconoclast — Vera Mont
... relinquished our divergent perspectives and interests. "We all" are always already entangled in at least as many or more win-lose / lose-lose than win-win games. "We few" micro-cooperators, perhaps many times over, is more like it – scarcity-exploiting partisans, sects, gangs, networks, tribes, etc. "We all", my friend, just doesn't effectively scale (re: global governance, the UN, international law enforcement (e.g. climate change, WMD proliferation, wealth laundering / tax-defrauding, etc) ... globalization ... communism ... "utopia", etc). AFAIK, wars & black markets are our most prevalent, recurring forms of macro-cooperation. Even the "Tower of Babel" myth is quite insightful about the inherent fractiousness of the human condition (ergo the unfortunate, historical utility of religio, religare). Don't forget, mate: at our best we're primates, not angels.if we all ... — universeness
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/16/judge-imposes-gag-order-on-donald-trump-in-d-c-trial-00121743Mr. Trump is a criminal defendant. He is facing four felony charges. He is under the supervision of the criminal justice system. He does not have the right to say and do exactly as he pleases. … No other criminal defendant would be allowed to do so and I am not going to permit it in this case. — Tonya Chutkan, US District Judge, Wash. DC, 16Oct23
