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  • Philosophy of Law; Legislation, Access to Just Remedy, Application of Rights, Legal deliberation.
    No. Tne philosophy of law is just plumbing in the fortress of political philosophy.
  • Life is more than who we are?
    "don't it make you sad to know that life, is more than who we are?"TiredThinker
    Nah, I ain't no solipsist or narcissist.
  • Hegel and the Understanding of Divine/Supernatural Experiences
    :clap: :sweat:
    I'll reply later after my own glass or three, old friend.
  • The meaning or purpose of life
    I would like to ask the question "what is the purpose of my life?"Average
    I suppose "the purpose" of any one's life is whatever task or exercise or practice one is committed to that provides an end (in one's own mind) which 'justifies' all or most of one's means (i.e. choices). In other words, whatever one lives for, or cannot endure living without doing, seems to me to be one's "life purpose". One can only answer this question for one self – each one of us is, paraphrasing Sartre, condemned to be free to choose our own purpose/s.
  • Inmost Core and Ultimate Ground
    It isn't lost. The self is lost. Content is altered, but not consciousness.bert1
    If it's only the recall of being conscious that is either "lost" or "altered" and not "consciousness" itself, then "consciousness" is like embodiment persisting independently of the state of one's awareness, or lack thereof, of one's own bodily condition. Assuming this scenario is the case, 'being conscious' seems redundant to, or synonymous with, 'being embodied', and eliminativists (i.e. physicalists), not mind-body dualists or panpsychists, are the parsimonious and conceptually coherent ones. To paraphrase Witty: bodily movement is the best picture of 'consciousness'. And Spinoza as well: 'being conscious' is the body's idea.
  • Inmost Core and Ultimate Ground
    :fire: :flower:
    I've got a word or two
    To say about the things that you do

    You're telling all those lies
    About the good things that we can have
    If we close our eyes


    Do what you want to do
    And go where you're going to
    Think for yourself
    'Cause I won't be there with you

    I left you far behind
    The ruins of the life that you had in mind

    And though you still can't see
    I know your mind's made up
    You're gonna cause more misery


    Do what you want to do
    And go where you're going to
    Think for yourself
    'Cause I won't be there with you


    Although your mind's opaque
    Try thinking more if just for your own sake

    The future still looks good
    And you've got time to rectify
    All the things that you should

    Do what you want to do
    And go where you're going to
    Think for yourself
    'Cause I won't be there with you

    Do what you want to do
    And go where you're going to
    Think for yourself
    'Cause I won't be there with you
    Think for yourself
    'Cause I won't be there with you
    — Think For Yourself (1965)
    https://youtu.be/vtx5NTxebJk
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    Either our decisions are determined by some prior cause or they occur spontaneously, neither of which seem to satisfy libertarian free will.Michael
    :100:
  • Is communism realistic/feasible?
    Well then the US, at least, has never been a nation-state. 'Country', I suppose, is a less tribalist term.
  • Is communism realistic/feasible?
    BTW, the more egalitarian and inclusive the US becomes the less it would be a nation-state. A nation is usually a group of people who have ethnicity in common.frank
    An 'ethno-nationalist state'? :eyes:

    My concept of 'nation-state' is decidedly cosmopolitan, n o t "ein volk, ein reich, ein gott". :mask:
  • Currently Reading
    @180 Proof@Jamal

    I think both of you will most surely enjoy Novel Explosives
    Manuel
    :cool: In gratitude for your generous recommendation, Manuel, I reciprocate in kind: the 'metaphysically haunting' duology The Passenger & Stella Maris by Cormac McCarthy. Enjoy!
  • Is communism realistic/feasible?
    My guess is that the most progressively egalitarian and inclusive political-economic arrangement of a modern nation-state that is "realistic/feasible" is "free market"–compatible forms of libertarian socialism (i.e. economic democracy) because I think, more likely than not, such societal arrangements would lower the levels of scarcity-exploitation (and therefore social alienation) even more than the current 'Nordic Model' can achieve. And as a US citizen, this is the contrarian, or radical, prism through which I critically oppose the disastrous partisan agendas and governing policies of the current neoliberal American hegemon.
  • Where Philosophy Went Wrong
    Oh yes. My comment was addressed to the epithet "elitist hobby", that philosophy outside the academy is (still) more than that.
  • In the brain
    Nevermind. Carry on with ... :roll:
  • Where Philosophy Went Wrong
    :lol: "Compostmoderns" ...the incontinental tradition vs the anals; both have produced a lot of shit and fostered normative correctness in their different ways..."Janus
    :clap: :up:

    Philosophy that is of no significance to everyman is nought but an elitist hobby.
    A stoic (no doubt, an "elitist") might have said "I don't pretend to be a man of the people. But I do try to be a man for the people." :fire:
  • Is communism realistic/feasible?
    Is communism realistic/feasible?jorndoe
    Not for scarcity-exploiting nation-states. As you say "communism doesn't scale well". Why? I think because, simply put, material scarcity amplified by increasing population pressures – radical alienation – and all that this existential condition entails individually and collectively. Of course, in a post-scarcity world, "communism" would be unnecessary.
    Be realistic, demand the impossible. — graffiti on buildings in Paris, May '68
    :fire:
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    Sure, but you're looking at the life in question from the outside.Janus
    Am I? I wrote "one", not you or him/her or people or them. Also, I took your comment about "rational intuition" to be philosophical, not sociological, so it was (meant to be) prescriptive as well as descriptive.
  • In the brain
    We know that we have memoriesAndrew4Handel
    "Memories" are functions, not "phenomena".
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    So, for me the real issue is an ethical one: how do I want to live and what kind of vision do I want to live by?Janus
    This 'voluntarism' seems to beg the "intuition" question. I'm with Freddy here: judge by example – how one actually lives, particularly one's manifest habits insofar as they embody some "kind of vision" one lives by – practies before principles.

    :up:
  • The Fall and Rise of Philosophy
    I appreciate the attempt. I'm afraid your terms are no clearer (to me) than before.
  • In the brain
    What phenomena are in the brain and if so how?Andrew4Handel
    The brain itself does not have 'senses' of its own so "phenomena in the brain" – humuncular theory – does not make sense.
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    And mirror neurons might give us that strong illusion of sharing platonic ideas and the same sensations ?plaque flag
    I don't know. My guess is that "platonic ideas" (universals) are quixotic (mis)uses of language rationalized whereby (formal and nonformal) abstractions are fallaciously reified. We share 'semantic illusions' discursively as a matter of course – "mirror neurons", I think, only play a significant role in prelinguistiic cognition (i.e. before babies habitualize language-use).
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    Attention is drawn to surprise, right?plaque flag
    Yeah, novelty usually pricks one from one's mneumonic slumber.
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    How about the self as a social habit...plaque flag
    ... or metacognitive bias (via neo-natal bonding + mirror neurons —> developing 'theory of mind'). :chin:
  • Ontological arguments for idealism
    I suggest that we drop the ocular metaphor and talk about dancing. In other words, we perform 'universals' in the way we trade marks and noises. This 'seeing' of 'form' (this metaphorical interpretation of our situation) has its pros and cons. It's helped us trick ourselves into believing in ghosts.plaque flag
    :fire: re: Homo [confabulator]!

    Platonism sometimes seem to merely assume its own conclusion.plaque flag
    :up:

    'Theory of Forms' (universals) via reification + circular reason fallacies. Later 'deconstructed' as the problem of the criterion, no?

    Selves also are almost logical absolutes. The tradition of a ghost in the machine of the body, which is held responsible for telling a coherent story, seems unavoidable. A culture without selves like this would be like a culture without wheels or fire. It's a technology so basic we think it came from god.plaque flag
    :clap: So on point – brilliantly succinct!

    You blinded me with Science (again)! :up:

    Neurath's boat. One part of us questions another part of us. We also make tacit norms explicit, draw out concepts. This is the hermeneutic circle. We 'know' what rationality and being are, but we aren't done knowing what they are.plaque flag
    :100:
  • The Fall and Rise of Philosophy
    The philosophy of stoicism was the religion of Marcus Aurelius. Philosophy was the religion of Boethius, who wrote “The Consolation of Philosophy.” Religion for the common people consisted largely of myths and gods.

    I think science united with philosophy addressing ultimate questions might produce a religion ...
    Art48
    I'm confused here by what you mean by "philosophy" and what you mean by "religion" and "science" as well. Some clarification would be helpful.
  • Emergence
    I think you're hung up on semantics. Besides, are humans merely just a gradation of – "advanced / augmented" – eukaryotes? or "advanced / augmented" fish? 'Human intellect instantiated on a planck-scale (entangled) synthetic substrate' doesn't seem like a merely "advanced / augmented human" prospect to me.
  • Emergence
    I don't see how we could "merge with" AGI —> ASI —> ??? and not be(come) "posthuman" – another species completely (e.g. nano sapiens). Are butterflies just 'winged caterpillars' after the chrysalis?

    Anyway, back to the present, I just came across this article

    https://philosophynow.org/issues/155/Whats_Stopping_Us_Achieving_Artificial_General_Intelligence

    and I'm reading it now. Might be worth discussing ..
  • An Argument Against Culturists
    IME (as a disbeliever), there seem to be four stances with respect to 'religious belief':
    • make-believers (most)
    • unbelievers (many)
    • true believers (few)
    • disbelievers (fewer)
    Maybe it's always been this way and that the secular modernity of recent centuries helps to make these 'cultural' differences more explicit. Ergo, the waxing of various reactionary fundamentalisms (especially, though not exclusively, among the Abrahamic "axis of evil") in the last several decades.
  • Where Philosophy Went Wrong
    Is it possible some philosophers when writing run out of ideas, but continue writing?
    — jgill

    For some, it seems to me, it is as if their words are in search of ideas. If they keep writing sooner or later they will stumble across something to say.

    And there are some who just recycle the same idea.
    Fooloso4
    :up: :up:
  • Emergence
    Project: Black Box

    Re: Large language models (i.e. neural networks which are self-learning machines) which also "hallucinate". :yikes:



    @universeness @Tom Storm @Wayfarer
  • Where Philosophy Went Wrong
    Perhaps ... but I'm not teaching this stuff for money, so maybe not.

    Yeah, I like a few of them too.
  • Hegel and the Understanding of Divine/Supernatural Experiences
    I got the virus twice in 2021, before & after the jab. I've had two boosters since. These "long haul symptoms" I've been living with for two years ain't no joke. It's reduced me from a marathoner to a one-legged sprinter. "I can't go on. I'll go on." Thanks anyway. :mask:
  • Hegel and the Understanding of Divine/Supernatural Experiences
    Lingering covid brain fog and chronic fatigue – I do what I can.
  • Hegel and the Understanding of Divine/Supernatural Experiences
    Insofar as "Hegel may have been trying to update Spinoza", I think he reconceptualizes one of Spinoza's infinite modes ("the world") as a 'meta-historicizing teleology' according to his own idealist dialectic ("Geist").
    — 180 Proof

    Could you elaborate on the bold part?
    plaque flag
    :yikes: Which part?

    All of it? :scream:

    (As much as I try to be, I ain't no @Fooloso4 or @apokrisis or @Banno) Unpacking that blurb would be a helluva dissertation ... In the meantime, I recommend Pierre Macherey's Hegel or Spinoza which, as I recall, is an excellence critique of Hegel's (deliberate) misreading – "updating" – of Spinoza's ontology, etc (@Tobias re: one of our first discussions). Maybe I wlll come back to this if I can more expansively explain what I mean in only a paragraph or three. :sweat:
  • Inmost Core and Ultimate Ground
    I first define the concept of ultimate ground of existence as that which underlies physical existence. [ ... ] At this point, it’s a philosophical concept, not unlike Kant's Thing-in-itself or Schopenhauer's Will.Art48
    I prefer Democritus-Epicurus' Void.

    Does the concept of ultimate ground of existence refer to something real? It may not. But mystics often describe their experience as experience of ultimate reality, which gives some support for the idea.
    How can promixate beings with proximate perceptual capabilities and frames of reference "experience" "ultimate" anything? This assertion doesn't make sense to me. It's more likely "mystics" are mistaken about their ineluctable cognitive (experiential) limits and confabulate an "ultimate" – X-of-the-gaps – that transcends them.

    Anyway, Nāgārjuna's Śūnyatā works for me.

    See my response to Banno ...Art48
    I did, and that's why I still want (more) compelling reasons. If that's all you've got, well okay, Art, ... whatever.
  • Hegel and the Understanding of Divine/Supernatural Experiences
    I think Hegel may have been trying to update Spinoza.plaque flag
    I think so, and he more or less says as much ...
    You're either a Spinozist, or not a philosopher at all. — GWF Hegel
    ... and he considered himself a (great world-historical) philosopher, ergo "Spinozist".

    The World is God, and We are God's eyes, God's spies, God's neurons.plaque flag
    This is too pantheistic, even for Hegel (a christian pan-en-theist). As he (with Maimon) points out, Spinoza's metaphysics is acosmist. Insofar as "Hegel may have been trying to update Spinoza", I think he reconceptualizes one of Spinoza's infinite modes ("the world") as a 'meta-historicizing teleology' according to his own idealist dialectic ("Geist").
  • Where Philosophy Went Wrong
    Indeterminacy is as old as philosophy itself, but it seems as though some today think it is their job to create indeterminacy. As if trying to navigate a ship on stormy seas so as not to run ashore will be benefited by making the landmarks indistinguishable.Fooloso4
    Agreed. I'm also not a fan of either dada-like compostmoderns or analysis-for-analysis-sake "specialists".