• Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Like Israel and the UAE were ever in danger of a conflict. LMFAO. The poor brainlets who think this means anything are beyond help.

    "Israel and the Emirates have long maintained a thinly veiled secret relationship over mutual interests, and the idea of formalizing it had come up several times over the past year."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/us/politics/trump-israel-united-arab-emirates-uae.html
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Reelection-purposed political posturing more like.



    "the moves are largely symbolic because the orders are unlikely to take effect anytime soon, if they do so at all, because the power to implement drug pricing policy through executive order is limited. Voters will not see an impact before the November elections, and the drug industry is sure to challenge them in court.

    ...most of the proposals cannot be implemented via executive order. Instead, the administration must complete the rulemaking process, which could take months or years."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/24/trump-expected-sign-drug-pricing-executive-orders-friday-angering-pharma/

    Political pantomine. Some of it probably in response to stories like this, which more closely reveal the Trump administration's relationship with big pharma.

    "Government contracts obtained by consumer advocacy group Knowledge Ecology International show that the Trump administration is giving pharmaceutical companies a green light to charge exorbitant prices for potential coronavirus treatments developed with taxpayer money by refusing to exercise federal authority to constrain costs.

    Through the Freedom of Information Act, Knowledge Ecology International (KEI) last week got hold of a number of heavily redacted agreements between the Trump administration and major pharmaceutical companies like Johnson & Johnson, Regeneron, and Genentech."

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/02/scandal-contracts-show-trump-giving-big-pharma-free-rein-price-gouge-taxpayer-funded

    Most likely this is a PR stunt carefully engineered to make sure nothing significant will actually change.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    You're more likely to find bitcoin in a rock than you are an authentic political position in NOS.
  • Coronavirus


    We will probably need blanket mask wearing rules too as, after having got down to single figure new cases, the government decided to let American tourists come here under self-policing quarantine. That has predictably not worked out too well and cases are up again. Thanks, Trump virus.
  • Coronavirus
    Even the orange fuckwit has been wearing a mask recently. If he can learn, anyone can. Recently made mandatory at my local store. I have no problem with that. It's certainly preferable to being locked down again.
  • Why was my thread removed?

    It was removed because it was incoherent. It also contained a lack of basic knowledge of English grammatical nomenclature, e.g., referring to "I" as a consonant, along with several spelling mistakes, which cemented my impression. Maybe there's a point in there somewhere ("it" as a dummy pronoun is an unusual aspect of grammar that has been discussed here before), but if there was, it wasn't expressed to the level of clarity required. If you'd like a second stab at it, send me your revised OP first and I'll consider allowing you to post it.
  • Crypt payments for hosting and... moderators?


    If I thought anyone here actually had any money, I might have taken a different attitude. :wink:
  • Crypt payments for hosting and... moderators?
    There was a huge pogrom / race riot / arson and bloody massacre in Tulsa, OK on May 31/June 1, 1921.Bitter Crank

    Heard about Tulsa when Drumpf decided to go full MAGAt there.
  • Crypt payments for hosting and... moderators?
    Lemme know if you need to know anything else about Oklahoma.Hanover

    What's the lowdown on Hooker, OK?

    Got a lot of friends there?
  • Crypt payments for hosting and... moderators?


    Yeah, well, I was looking at a map of Oklahoma just before I wrote that so makes sense.
  • Crypt payments for hosting and... moderators?


    @Paul is not a mod or admin here and rarely posts. You're about four years out of date on that one. By all means send him some crypto for his work on PF but let's get the staff here straight. Also, won't speak for the rest of the team but alls I want from y'all is y'all behave.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?


    I can't find the full context in which you used the word "fags" (even from our changelog). But your interlocutors are right to point out it's a homophobic slur and its use could get you banned. Back to topic now, please (or the thread will be closed).
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Putin helped Trump and Republicans get elected, the least they can do in return is let Vlad kill a few US troops. I agree with the GOP, no big deal here, just business as usual. Trump 2020 :death: :party:
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    Assuming Biden is elected, here are a few things he could immediately do that would make me feel better. In no special order.

    1) Close Guantanemo

    2) Commute the sentences of prisoners, mostly black women, sentenced under harsh mandatory sentencing guidelines for minor drug offenses.

    3) Nail down universal health care.

    4) Immediately fully reinstate effective as of their date of being fired or reduced every federal employee fired by or forced to resign or reassigned by Trump not for legitimate cause. Think Sally Yates, for example, and Marie Yovanovich and Alexander Vindman and Andrew McCabe, et al.

    5) Announce a full, complete, comprehensive criminal investigation of all things and persons Trump. Not as a witch hunt, but as a combined effort to identify crimes and criminals and punish them, fully document the history, exonerate any who can be, and within the history to identify the lies and the liars, and the cost of the lies. That is, to heal wounds, they have to be cleaned out.

    5, i) For example, Trump presumably files and pays taxes. Either he has broken laws or he hasn't. There is much anecdotal evidence that he's almost never met a law he didn't break. Did he break any tax laws, and if he did, he needs proportional punishment. And if he did not, if a complete investigation of his taxes across years reveals he broke no laws, well then, good for him! But I doubt that's the case.

    6) Reverse every rule, law, directive issued by the Trump's administration. I cannot think of one that is not rotten, obscene, disgusting, and corrupt.

    7) Commit to reuniting every child separated from their families by Trump, and provide - or at least offer - citizenship to each such child and his or her family.

    8) Invite the Mexican government to officially participate in a wall-destruction program. A joint artillery exercise where possible would be nice! But repudiation by total destruction.

    edit, forgot one.
    9) Review all appointments under Trump to the federal judiciary, disqualifying - and prosecuting - for cause any found to have lied about their qualifications, or for any other appropriate reason.

    And anything anyone thinks should be added. Of course Biden's administration will have a lot to do that has little or nothing to do with Trump. But this listing should be limited to just those things he should do to repair and rehabilitate after the disease that is Trump.
    tim wood
  • Biden and repair, rehabilitation
    This discussion was merged into Joe Biden
  • Coronavirus


    Typo. Figures are both for new cases. Fixed. Cheers for pointing that out.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
  • Bannings


    Me, more like. :monkey: Bedtime for Goebbels anyhow. Gute Nacht.
  • Bannings


    Most of us were mods at old PF.
  • Bannings


    We don't have "fun" in Ireland. We get drunk in bogs and forget where we live. That's my plan for tomorrow.
  • Bannings
    Speaking of which, banned @Oku for low quality. This one only took three posts, which could be a record. (But it was not a difficult decision considering the content.)
  • Bannings


    If you want idiocy, it's not in short supply on the internet. Happy hunting!
  • Bannings


    Reporting a post only means bringing something to our attention. We are responsible for all mod decisions and no-one else.

    [Cross posted]
  • Bannings
    . Also, hurt feelings are not, or shouldn't be, a deciding factor in the decision to ban.DingoJones

    Yes, unless there are extenuating circumstances (someone is complaining about being extremely depressed or suicidal etc and we're worried our actions could have an unusually strong effect) we just ban on the basis of the required standard.
  • Bannings
    Meh, the guy had what, 25 posts in two years? Granted, they weren't any good, but there was no pressing need to get rid of him.SophistiCat

    And yet you'd be the first to complain about low quality if we let him post his OPs. So... what? We should run around deleting low-quality posters' stuff to keep you happy while not doing the obvious and banning them? Eh, no.

    Good call about the other three (if my count is right).SophistiCat

    You're welcome.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    You could not have asked for better than 125,000 dead from COVID, a huge economic recession, and the largest hike in the national debt of any president ever in one term?

    You must really hate America.
  • Coronavirus
    Florida is the new ItalyBaden

    Correction. It's already significantly worse than Italy ever was. Italy peaked at 6,000 deaths new cases per day. Florida had 9,000 new cases yesterday with just one-third of Italy's population.
  • Bannings
    Feels like Irish buses. Nothing for ages then three come at the same time.
  • Coronavirus
    Florida is the new Italy (current prediction if things don't change of 30,000 new cases / day by October). If it wasn't already going for Biden it is now.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida
  • Bannings
    A mod somewhere recently said something like if you’ve been posting a while and haven’t been banned yet, that’s good evidence that they think you’re generally good enough and worth keeping around.Pfhorrest

    I said that. Yes, it's good evidence but not a guarantee. Anyway, we rarely ban for low quality and unless you're in the bottom 5% of active posters, you've nothing to worry about.

    Btw: Banned @MathematicalPhysicist for low quality.

    Don't know what it is about today.
  • Bannings
    [Cross posted]
  • Bannings


    We are upholding the guidelines. If you are a consistently low quality poster, we consider that you are "obviously unsuited to the forum" and a summary ban is likely to be applied. And even if you're not, we only specify in the guidelines you'll "probably" receive a warning.
  • Bannings
    @DingoJones We usually just ban if the low quality is consistent enough for us to think the poster just isn't suited to the place. If it's a short burst from an otherwise decent poster, we'll warn. So, this is par for the course.
  • Least favorite moderators?


    Yeah, I heard of the Calvin Hobbes guy. He's good.
  • Least favorite moderators?
    I read all those words in your post and I'm not sure what I was reading. Although I'm not sure what those things were, I'll go on record as saying they are all stupid.Hanover

    Probably the names of all those video games he plays.
  • Fashion and Racism


    Ok, I'm going to leave it there anyway. As I said before there's an important distinction for me between unconscious and unwanted biases and conscious derogatory attitudes.
  • Bannings
    @christian2017 has been banned for low quality. I suppose now would be a good time to resurrect the accusation that we're picking on theists. Though we're not really.
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?


    Fuck, yeah. :cheer:



    I think street is bang on about consensus. Sometimes it needs to be forced rather than reached.