• A (simple) definition for philosophy
    a statement about another statement.Tarskian
    That's merely a metastatement (@Lionino)

    IMO, a "philosophical statement" is a non-propositional expression (i.e. proposal) of a presupposition or an implication derived from a proposed answer to a philosophical question or from a philosophical question itself. A philosophical question, OTOH, is a counterfactual supposition (or thought-experiment) that cannot be definitively answered by either empirical or formal means (i.e. propositions).

    Example:
    Is the world (i e. a concept of "the world") deterministic or indeterministic?

    If the world is deterministic, meaning that every event is caused by a prior event (i.e. non-random), then every person's choosing is epiphenomenal (or an illusion).

    However, if the world is indeterministic, meaning that every event is uncaused (i.e. random), then, yet again, every person's choosing is epiphenomenal (or an illusion).

    Suppose the world has both deterministic properties and indeterministic properties, meaning that any chain, or sequence, of events consists in alternating causal and noncausal relations, which therefore implies that every person's choosing is unconstrained-within-constraints, or compatible with the world conceived of having both deterministic and indetetministic properties.
    I'm not satisfied with this simplistic example but I think it works well enough. My point is that philosophy's sine qua non is her questions (even meta-questions) – the how what when & why of them – rather than any answers, or "statements". In Socratic manner, I think, philosophizing strives to reason to more probative questions (or more clear, precise formulations of a question) and not just the academic penchant for masturbating each other with cleverer and cleverer logical puzzles.
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    I actually interpret Spinoza as a sort of 'acosmist', so not sure I would call him an immanentist ...boundless
    Well, fwiw, I see no other way but to interpret Spinoza as both an immanentist and acosmist sub specie aeternitatis (though sub specie durationis also as a pandeist, which (for me) ontically relates him to that other great immanentist Epicurus).
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    Reality seems to have replaced God as a subject of transcendental hope.Tom Storm
    For Spinozists, reality (Deus, sive naturans) is ineluctably immanent – the encompassing horizon that reason necessarily cannot encompass (i.e. explain, or transcend) – and exhausts all of our other rational ideas, concepts & categories. Absurdists might say "reality is the subject of transcendental despair" (i.e. void, anicca, dao, sunyata). Also, faith (i.e. "hope") isn't needed because in practice denying or ignoring reality tends to be hazardous. :smirk:

    On the contrary, with all due respect, perhaps the world (naively) seems "imperfect" to us only because each one of us is "imperfect" ... Philosophy can be a practice – "spiritual exercise" (Hadot) – for learning (again) to see the world as perfect and thereby, like Sisyphus, always striving to perfect our communities and ourselves (e.g. ethics-as-tikkun olam).
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Yeah, the favorite candidate of racists and nativists DonOLD The Clown made those deplorables "proud" today.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    The Party is not a democracy and has its own process for nominating the nominee and had every option available to it to not nominate Biden at the upcoming convention.Benkei
    :100: Exactly.
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    :ok: The clarifications are appreciated.
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    What do your questions have to do with either the OP or what I have written in this thread? I have not stated or implied that "mind" or "subject" "experience" does not exist, only that imo these terms have been misused by antirealists (immaterialists) such as Wayfarer, Gnomon, bert1 ... and now, it seems, you too.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Yeah ...
    The women are smarter
    Roevember is coming! :victory: :mask:
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    Consider ...
    "The mind is the subject of experience" is inept or even deceptive. Experiences are had only by minds [subjects], so what might seem profound is little more than tautology.Banno
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    31July24

    DonOLD The Clown – adjudicated¹ ra[c/p]ist, MAGA-GOP candidate for "dictator-for-a-day"– who is very afraid of a much younger & stronger, incredibly smarter, and charismatic black woman (who happens to be the current VPOTUS) and too chickenshit – must be them ol' "bonespurs" – to debate her in the fall.

    ¹1973 & 2023 respectively

    Roevermber is coming for you, Bonespurs! :victory: :mask:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    31July24

    DonOLD The Clown – adjudicated¹ ra[c/p]ist, MAGA-GOP candidate for "dictator-for-a-day" – who is very afraid of a much younger & stronger, incredibly smarter, and charismatic black woman (who happens to be the current VPOTUS) and too chickenshit – must be them ol' "bonespurs" – to debate her in the fall.

    ¹1973 & 2023 respectively

    Roevermber is coming for you, Bonespurs! :victory: :mask:

    :lol:
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    both obvious and centralWayfarer
    Philosophy reflectively-critically examines whatever is assumed to be "obvious and central" (e.g. intuitions, folk psychological ideas, values, etc) no?
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    :100:

    :up: :up:

    @Sam26 is dogmatic on this (spiritual / supernatural / o-dualistic) topic and, as I've found at length, his poor reasoning incorrigibly persists despite counter-arguments of the lack of public evidence, conceptual clarity & parsimony of so-called well-documented "NDE/OBE" (like "alien abduction" or "demonic possession") testimonials.
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    It is that which discloses such things as gravity and raditation and sub-atomic particles, amidst innumerable other things. It is the subject to whom all this occurs or appears. The ‘unknown knower’.Wayfarer
    This "knower" (i.e. perceiver) Bishop Berkeley calls "God" which, not by coincidence I'm sure, is functionally indistinguishable from @Gnomon's "Enformer". An infinite regress-of-the-gaps. :sparkle: :eyes:

    [T]he mind is not ‘a thing among other things’Wayfarer
    Agreed. Mind(ing) is something sufficiently complex brains do – a (meta)activity, not an entity.
  • Is the real world fair and just?
    ... to head off the common notion that science seeks a "view from nowhere" ... Rather, science seeks a view from anywhere. A point worth making in a philosophy forumBanno
    :up:

    It is one thing to say that things unperceived are not the same as we perceive them to be and altogether another to claim that when unperceived they don't exist.Janus
    :up: :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Two women on the ticket is, unfortunately, a loser.Mikie
    IMO, not "a loser" versus two misogynists who advocate a National Abortion Ban (i.e. criminalizing women's reproductive healthcare) if elected.
  • The game theory against divorces
    The question is, why does he want to preserve that relationship?Igitur
    :up:
  • The game theory against divorces
    In your example, the husband is a simp if he doesn't go to the football match without her; in the long run, the wife will respect him more for ignoring her ultimatums rather than giving in. The reasonable choice is, imo, either they agree to go to an event together or each one goes alone to the respectively preferred event rather than either one trying to force the other to do anything.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Survivor of an FBI entrapment case, more like it. It was planned by paid FBI informants. More deep state crooks elevated by deep state dupes.NOS4A2
    :lol: The only "deep state" is Project 2025 (i.e. The Heritage Foundation + The Federalist Society). Take your meds, dude. Roevember is coming! :victory:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    I still think Gretchen Whitmer would be the best VP candidate: an attractive white woman, popular governor of a large swing state, target of a wingnut Trumper/MAGA-affiliated kidnapping conspiracy in 2020; very smart politician, pro-civil rights, pro-labor & pro-choice. Checks more boxes than the other prospects. Makes too much sense and that's why Harris & her team probably won't pick Whitmer.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Sleepy Joe is (again) a day late and dollar short. Here's more disingenuous grist for your MAGA-grievance mill, NOS: a late-2020 post of mine on equitable 'SCOTUS reform' ...

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/461370
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    [C]onsciousness is the source of this reality, and probably all reality except base reality, which is consciousness itself. It could be that consciousness created something that then creates reality, but we don't know. Consciousness may be able to create reality by its own volition.Sam26
    (a) So if "consciousness ... creates reality", then what "creates" "consciousness"?

    (b) And if "consciousness" is not "created", then why assume that "reality" is "created?
  • Does physics describe logic?
    The rules of chess encompass all the possible games of chess without themselves being one, and a game can provide examples of the rules in action, without being them.tim wood
    :up: :up:
  • Perception
    Does the color “red” exist outside of the subjective mind that conceptually designates the concept of “red?”Mp202020
    Yes (e.g. a community – more than any "subjective mind" – that uses the public conventions of "stop signs" & "traffic lights"; see below).

    If there is no mind to experience and conceptually designate “red” does red ever aquire an inherent existence independent of a third party mind?
    Yes (e.g. thermal EM radiation from stars, etc). The "experience" may be "subjective", though "red" is acquired publicly, but (except for those who are colorblind) what "red" corresponds to in every instance (e.g. EM frequencies) is not "subjective".
  • Does physics describe logic?
    [D]o you think physics describes logic?Shawn
    No. Physics (provisionally) explains 'the regularities of nature' and logic (exactly) describes 'the entailments of regularities as such'. The latter is, imo so to speak, the syntax of the former (i.e. physics discursively presupposes logic). Why? Perhaps because ... nature, which includes – constitutes – h. sapiens' intelligence, is a dynamic process evolving within (thermal?) constraints from initial conditions – ur-regularities.

    :up:
  • Simplest - The minimum possible building blocks of a universe
    First Order Logic is a subset of Axiomatic Mathematics ... First order Logic, a subset of axiomatic mathematics, doesn't exist.Treatid
    :lol: Principle of explosion —> STFU, kid.
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    re: "NDE"
    It doesn't matter ... the meaning of death, who cares? It's not the concept that matters it's the experience!Sam26
    :clap: :rofl:

    :up: :up:
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    :eyes: You're still incorrigible and fatuous! Resuscitations, not resurrections, ergo not biological "death" as implied by "NDE" (as I and others have repeatedly pointed out to you Sam).
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    Yw. :point:

    from 2023 ...
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/782860

    and follow-up to your conspicuously poorly reasoned, often disingenuous dogma ...
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/797025
  • Politics, economics and arbitrary transfers.
    Are you critical of the subject, 180 Proof?Mark Nyquist
    No, I'm neither an economist nor a policy-maker.
  • Politics, economics and arbitrary transfers.
    What's your philosophical question? Describe what makes this "economic issue of arbitrary transfers" philosophically significant.
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    :lol: Well, apparently you're too lazy to think so it's no surprise you're also too lazy to click on the link I've provided in my previous two posts to an earlier post with the questions you obviously cannot answer.

    .