Leviticus 11:What on earth does that have to do with the topic? — Serving Zion
But anything in the seas or the rivers that does not have fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.
I am the judge of what is moral or not in my own words. — Serving Zion
here's a bit from the book of Jude, — Serving Zion
Leviticus 11:
But anything in the seas or the rivers that does not have fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.
So one assumes you do not do anything so moral as to easy prawns or oysters. — Banno
I am the judge of what is moral or not in my own words.
— Serving Zion
Yeah. It doesn't work like that. We get to judge what you say, too. — Banno
You are presenting a patriarchal view of womanhood. — Banno
It doesn't say that though. — Serving Zion
why not stop the pretence of doing anything like ethics and just admit that what you are doing here is not philosophy, but your own imaginings of what it is to serve Zion? — Banno
Yeah, you had the wrong story. In the right story, the one I am talking about, Israel came together not to defend women's rights, but to defend father's and master's property rights. — Banno
Your holy book is full of such misogyny. — Banno
It's anachronistic to expect it to set out virtues worthy of today. — Banno
Moral law doesn't. — Serving Zion
what makes you repeatedly say that my moral views wrt abortion are from what the bible says? — Serving Zion
.. and can you show any statement in the bible that supports your idea — Serving Zion
Your name, your predilection for scriptural quotations, and my experience of those who oppose abortion; — Banno
together with a lack of a coherent ethical argument. — Banno
.. and can you show any statement in the bible that supports your idea
— Serving Zion
No. Nor do I grant any biblical authority. — Banno
But anything in the seas or the rivers that does not have fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.
So one assumes you do not do anything so moral as to easy prawns or oysters.
— Banno — Banno
It is interesting you have found it to be a matter of morality, where it has said only "a thing detestable" to you - שֶׁקֶץ Sheqets, from Leviticus 11:10, interlinear.
Could you review that and explain why you have said it is given as a commandment on the grounds of morality rather than just feelings of disgust? — Serving Zion
The truthful statement would be that you do not see that I have made a coherent ethical argument. I — Serving Zion
Cysts are not persons. — Banno
Being a person involves sentience, emotion, affection, physical health, an appetite, and rationality. A woman is capable of all of these. — Banno
There are some people though, who do not recognise an unborn baby as a human being. I think that they have found an opportunity to disregard the perspective of the unborn because they do not see it's face, hear it's sounds, see it's reactions to environmental stimuli. But, that also can be said of parents who are in a bad mood, who also are completely unable to see those things in children. — Serving Zion
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