I assume that cognition means conscious awareness of. In that case, my view would be very similar to semantic direct realism. — Ashriel
hmm to my understanding the Indirect Realist would say that they are looking at mars, but directly experiencing something that looks like mars — Ashriel
the Indirect Realist would say that they are looking at mars — Ashriel
The “directness” of perception refers to the relationship between the perceiver and the perceived — NOS4A2
I don't think there's any problem with an indirect realist saying "I'm looking at mars". — flannel jesus
The Indirect Realist says that they directly perceive a dot in the sky. The Direct Realist says that what they directly perceive is the cause of the dot.
I’ve always understood the indirect realist to say they directly perceive sense-data, representations, perceptions and the like. — NOS4A2
The indirect Realist directly perceives something in their field of vision, which they can reason to be the planet Mars. The word "sense data" should be taken as a figure of speech, not literally, in that no-one has ever found sense data in the brain. As the word "house" is a representation of an object in the world, the dot is a representation of the planet Mars.
I don't see why it needs to be metaphorical. What else would "looking at" mean if not what I said? What I said was not metaphorical at all. — flannel jesus
I suppose my confusion lies in whether the “representation” is a product of the perceiver or the percieved. — NOS4A2
I guess we just mean different things when we say 'looking at'. That's ok by me. — flannel jesus
Yep.Indirect Realism is not any more skeptical realism than Direct Realism is. I address this in the OP itself. — Ashriel
Yep.And Indirect Realism is a form of Representationism. — Ashriel
So we have two scenarios. In both there are things in the world. In both there are representations of those things. But in indirect realism one says that "what I see is the representation". Here the "I" doing the "seeing" is seperate to the representation, and the "I" never sees the thing.I hold that what we see corresponds to the external world. Just that what we see is not the external world. — Ashriel
As the word "house" is a representation of an object in the world, the dot is a representation of the planet Mars. — RussellA
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