I don't need to be there to know a bomb went off for I can infer it from the mess it causes. — TheMadFool

I don't need to be there to know that a man, Jesus, cannot raise himself after he successfully suicides himself to test a myth and fail to prove it real.

His less intelligent followers should consider the immorality of their beliefs but of course do not.

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The problem for the religious fundamentalist is that they are trying to have their cake and eat it to. — Gregory

The problem with fundamental religions is that they cannot tell good from evil.

Just look at Yahweh, the god the mainstream fundamentals follow and idol worship.

Their abeyance to that satanic god shows you just how un-important morals are to the religious.

They are satanic and that proof is all you need to know that the mainstream religions are immoral religions.

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have a good day Bishop, perhaps something happened in your life to justify your anger. That is completely acceptable. — christian2017

Yes, something happened to make me hate those who abuse others by their vile religious thinking.

I recognized that Christians were evil and worshipping Satan.

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some recreational drink or smoke involved? — Nobeernolife

There are no supernatural entities in Gnostic Christianity.

Gnostic Christians are not that stupid or brain dead.

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(assuming there is a standard)? — christian2017

If you are to do apologetics for Christianity, you might want to read the bible.

Jesus is clear that those who believe in him, or even have just a bit of faith, would be able to do all he did and more.

If you want to do apologetics, start with promoting their genocidal garbage god, Yahweh..

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So you agree that the description of the two gods is contradictory. — Nobeernolife

By showing the sameness. U B fool.

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Stalin was an atheist. — christian2017

So are most Christians and Muslims.

I am using the Jesus Christs standard here.

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He live's next door. — Eleonora

??

I do not ignore what I have spawned. My yin has a Yang.

I am surprised you do not acknowledge your satanic side.

If you are to be alone, be complete.

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Yes, so what? Everything Muhammad does is completely approved by Allah, so you can not use the excuse that he is human. — Nobeernolife

One imaginary god approving of another imaginary god.

One wants obedient slaves and the othe wants submission from his.

Yep. Slave owning gods agree with slave owners of all kinds.

So droll, if not so sad for the fools who believe these two characters to be real.l.

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Yes, but at least we have each other. — Eleonora

We are not listening to each other in this time of babble.

The light cannot cut through the sound.

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However why do you say that the Bible supports misogyny? — christian2017

Because it does. You know the quotes as well as I.

Like genocide, it is clear as to if we should consider your Christian views as satanic or not.

Who would use genocide? Satan or god, whoever you think those characters are?

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We are all one. — Eleonora

Indeed. We are all in this together, alone.

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We probably all have an outlook — Eleonora

Indeed fascist religions, like our mainstream garbage, are all in for genocide as a good form of justice.

Heil to all the religious.

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Did you see the set of questions i proposed to you? Perhaps he just likes to test his creation? I'll come back to this in an hour. I've never met personally someone who claimed to come back from the grave, but to some extent i believe online testimonies. In no way shape or form based on my understanding of the Bible do i find the god of the Bible, offensive. Do you realize even the show teletubbies (are you familiar with that kid show?) has conflicts and dissapointments. I don't know 100% whether there is an afterlife, and most would make that claim or have to make that claim. — christian2017

Yes I saw your garbage.

You, given that you do not see anything offensive in your Hitler-ish Yahweh, cannot recognize the garbage you spew. Fascists like their own.

Your god is Satan, and you don't care.

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The nation was conquered, it wasn't about their ethnicity. You said you've read the Bible, perhaps you should read it again. — christian2017

A god who can cure but chooses to kill is a prick.

Yahweh is a prick and his followers have the same homophobic and misogynous fascist character.

My side knew their inquisitors well.

Heil Yahweh.

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Never confuse the method with the outcome. — Eleonora

Is that from Hitler or Stalin?

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Being a disciple of Jesus is nor about doing, nor either about being anything other than loving - no more than believing inconclusively is it. — Eleonora

Loving???

You have not read your bible. Armageddon ring a bell?

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You said you like a challenge many times. Can you answer these questions. — christian2017

Yes, but to what end?

You are trying to justify your god killing when he could just as easily cure.

You sure have a satanic view o9f Jesus.

He said he came t9o cure and not to kill.

Why are you adoring a murderer instead of a good god?

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Joshua didn't commit genocide because there were still plenty of Amorites in ancient Iraq. I could go on and on about this but i'll get to it later. — christian2017

You would also not see Hitler as using genocide either --- because their were still many Jews around.

Go give your head a shake.

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Look at what happened in Germany and Japan, and ancient China or the Aztecs. — Athena

We are all the same.

I see nature at work. What do you see?

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His disciple, by the only definition we can know. That's the entirety of what Christianity is about to me. — Eleonora

You have it backwards like most to.

You want to serve, when Jesus said he came to serve.

You do the opposite of what Jesus wants of you.

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Being a Christian is about following Jesus and this is it. — Eleonora

Which Jesus?

The one who would enslave you to a religion or the Jesus that would free you from it?

The one who tells you to preach or the one eho tells you to shut up in church?

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Honestly? Jesus Christ - I reckon. I put all my hopes in that basket. — Eleonora

If the Gnostic Christian Jesus, a good choice.

If the genocidal Jesus of the Christians that connects Jesus to Yahweh; Yuk.

Misogynous. Need I say more?

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:chin: What do you think makes us civilized? — Athena

Our insecurity, tribal natures and reliance on law.

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No, and yes.

No. The conception is mine. I cannot speak for Darwin.

Yes. Be it a god or nature, there is no conflict in attributing all human to human evil to our need to compete and create losers.

To your question on sin. Humans are the only beings that can have an evil intent and thus sin. Mens rea in secular law agrees.

Sin is a small evil within a greater good, --- given that that greater good is the survival of humankind, --- who are the creators of souls.

This applies to you and me as well.

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Not true. — Athena

Yes true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ADgh3yCSdM

I suppose the big problem that a
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Darwinist places as I said before is to
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explain empathy naturally altruism which
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seems to go to run counter to our
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Darwinian programming and it really does
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seem as though we subjectively feel
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empathy in a way that that naive
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interpretation of Darwinism would think
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that we shouldn't I mean we're we're too
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nice for for Darwinian tastes would be
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one way to put it I think it said it
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will it will be a challenge but it is a
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challenge to Darwinian stew explain why
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we are so nice because starting out from
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the assumption that our ancestors would
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have been programmed if you like or not
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if you don't to be nice towards relative
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and towards reciprocate errs how come
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when are nice to everybody and I think
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that that's not that difficult to
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explain because what natural selection
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does is to put into brains rules of
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thumb it doesn't say look after the
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interests of your selfish genes in a
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cognitive way if it did then we'd all be
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a lot nastier than than we are what
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natural selection does is put into
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brains rules of thumb which might be of
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the form be nice to any small squawking
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objects in your nest if you happen to be
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a bird now in a human case we used to
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live in small bands small villages where
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most of the people that you met as all
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the people you ever met would be
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relatives and would be people you meet
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again and again and therefore it would
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be in a position to reciprocate so the
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rule of thumb would have been be nice to
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everyone you meet
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now that's translated into today where
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we're cultural beings where we live in
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large cities we're no longer living in
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small villages or small bands it's no
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longer true that everybody you meet is a
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relative or a potential reciprocate er
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but the rule of thumb doesn't know that
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why should it just as the rule of thumb
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be lustful towards members of the
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opposite sex works because in nature
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back then there was no contraception now
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there is contraception and so the the
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rule of thumb just plain be lustful
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doesn't work anymore but it's still
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there we still feel the lust in the same
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way we still feel the lust to be nice
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because that's what natural selection
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built into us at a time when being nice
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meant being nice to everybody who meant
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if everybody would ever meet now
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nowadays we live in big cities but the
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rule of thumb is still there that's a
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very very simplified account but that's
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the kind of way in which a Darwinian
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might argue for why we're as nice as we
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are we certainly much do to nice in a
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naive sense

This a poor way to get information to you.

I will not do it often and might have to ignore some of your posts till you can view links.

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Many people have "rebuked" you — christian2017

Rebuking is for dummies.

As long as I am rot refuted, they can show how dumb they are all they like.

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you were vague so i'll be vague. I stole X dollars worth of stuff from a store with the intention of being caught — christian2017

I showed my end game of changing a bad law.

What was your end game. What was the purpose of your theft?

If i'm wrong about the Bible how does that hurt you, — christian2017

I am a white male. Religions cannot hurt me. All they can do is insult me in knowing that people are stupid enough to follow satanic religions en masse.

If you promote those immoral religions, you are satanic.

My fight is not about me nor for my benefit. It is for my children and grand children and all women and gays. Not to mention the mental improvement of those who promote garbage morals.

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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The capacities that open new horizons of knowledge, freedom, and power for us lead also to new horizons of confusion and error, irresponsibility, and depravity. — Cabbage Farmer

Yet every marker for evil is at the best level that we have ever enjoyed. Death by violence, crime, poverty, slavery etc.

Evolutionists are having a hard time explaining why we are so good to each other.

Your glass is half full but in reality it is overflowing with good.

You might want to check stats and facts on issues.

Even as we speak, we have a new virus killing some of us. We hate that it kills, but should be thankful that it is only killing a relatively small % of us.

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Nobeernolife — Nobeernolife

Thanks for your informative reply.

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Nobeernolife — Nobeernolife

I was just wondering; are you a guy or a gal?

I know your avatar is a female but wanted to confirm this.

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I'm still not giving up my christian faith. — christian2017

Faith in a good god, I would not question or try to change.

Tell us why you would even want to have faith in an evil genocidal god, who created a vile homophobic and misogynous religion, and I will see if we can be friends or not.

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Yeah i've done some shit too. Send me a private message if you would like. — christian2017

No need to go private.

I live in Canada, which now has legalized cannabis. When I was 36ish, I saw the immorality and futility of our drug war against the children in Canada and wanted to fight the law. I tried the right way till I ran into a wall of costs I could not handle so decide to mule till I was caught and attack the law on their dime instead of mine. I fought the law and they won by cheating and throwing everything, including this guilty as hell man and his case out of court, because they did not want my challenge to win.

I will hear your anecdotal story here or in P.M should you wish to share it.

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Athena — Athena

No argument on this.

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Unless me and you want to go to jail for 80 years, doing a citizen arrest isn't the best option. But if 80 years in jail is something you can manage, whatever god or alien force out there might reward you greatly.

Yes the Roman Papacy really sucks.

Do you believe in aliens? — christian2017

To think we are the only intelligent species in the universe, is betting against the odds. So yes, I think that there are intelligent life out there.

Would I spend the rest of my life in jail to end the damage the pedophile protectors and facilitators out there are doing?

Yes.

I risked 18 years in jail when I was 36ish for a lesser cause.

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good point the roman papacy does suck. — christian2017

I would see the pope and half his pedophile protecting bishops in jail if I had the power.

I would see all governments fly right and bring those bastards to justice.

Bullets are too good for them and collectively are all contributing to pedophilia.

Shame on us all.

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If you were talking about Catholic priests and Croatia, why didn`t you say that? — Nobeernolife

If I curse a pedophile protecting pope, or a death camp promoter and accomplish, does it matter which one of the many I name when speaking in general terms?

We are in a chat room. Not a court of law.

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Now that you know it...provide the evidence for you absurd claim. — Frank Apisa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_clergy_involvement_with_the_Ustaše

Apologies to all. It was not Jesuit priests as I had stated above who ran the death camps. It was the Franciscans.

"During World War II, nearly half of the 22 NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS operating in the Nazi allied state of CROATIA were under the command of ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS."

https://adarapress.com/2015/05/15/roman-catholic-priests-ran-half-the-concentration-camps-in-croatia/

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https://adarapress.com/2015/05/15/roman-catholic-priests-ran-half-the-concentration-camps-in-croatia/

Care to make an ass of yourself again.

That is the last time I do ypour research for you. Lazy is as lazy does.

You are not worth my time.

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I looked for your the claim that the pope funded death camps, — Nobeernolife

https://www.google.ca/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01cRuLSCZaWSH9MMYr1Z3E5KESRvA%3A1584976587991&source=hp&ei=y9J4Xpu-OdSztQbE04CgDw&q=Vatican+bank+hitler&oq=Vatican+bank+hitler&gs_l=psy-ab.3...999.12437..13438...2.0..0.145.2191.3j16......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j35i39j0i131j0i22i30j33i21.kIYgjEeQLhA&ved=0ahUKEwjbz4H08bDoAhXUWc0KHcQpAPQQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

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