Mmm, I dunno about that. The whole point of the clinically depressed requiring medication is because they are not able to change their behaviors and thoughts. — Heister Eggcart
I didn't say waiting around is what one should do. But there are other non-pharmaceutical treatments. And by the way - non-pharmaceutical treatments DO change the makeup of your brain via neuroplasticity.Waiting around is not a healthy fix, because you don't know whether your depression will more naturally subside. You have to be treated in some facet in order to change the makeup of your brain, and specifically "pills" do this best. — Heister Eggcart
What I have to say about this is you are basically saying what is already known. — Grey
Depression isn't the enemy, fighting it is. — Grey
You clearly don't kow anything about depression — Hamtatro
you don't embrace a sad life because the only goal of a human life is to be happy — Hamtatro
if some people choose suicide its because they think that their overall life is going to be sad — Hamtatro
And, a little more, it's not the depression that kills but the negative thoughts and feelings that arise from it — Question
That's not true and that ideology is a cause of depression and the reason people can become suicidal. — Grey
People choose suicide for many different reasons not just because they think their life will be sad — Grey
Embracing sadness and depression doesn't mean living your life sad and depressed. If you accept sadness and depression and let the emotions do their job then you wont feel that way permanently. — Grey
My mind somehow isn't capable of accepting statements that philosophical pessimism offers. — rossii
I am afraid I won't escape these feelings of anxiety, panic, depression abd suicidal ideation. — rossii
Fuck it man, what's the reason not to go on living? What's the reason to quit life? Living is your default state. You need a reason to change something. You don't need a reason to leave things as they are. There's no "why" to going on living. You go on living because you are alive, simple. That's not a reason for it, simply how things are.but why go on living? what is the rational reason? I just don't see one. — rossii
Yet you find your life so good that you still want to live it — Hamtatro
This sounds much like the slave who, when his master decides to free him, cannot bear to be freed, and begs for the chains not to be taken off :PFirstly, depressed and/or suicidal individuals often keep on living precisely because of their illness - their depression becomes what sustains them, not so much what occurs, as Question alluded to, outside of the bed, or the shower, or the house. In other words, some depressed people live to be depressed, not to live a life of love...not that such people choose that "lifestyle." — Heister Eggcart
there's not much to gain out of life — Agustino
there's nothing "big" you can get out of it. — Agustino
nothing is of real importance ultimately. — Agustino
life is worth living in and of itself, it doesn't require any particular thing — Agustino
So I'm skeptical about "cure all" solutions. — Agustino
The human condition doesn't have a cure, because it doesn't need one. — Agustino
Once you become satisfied with the idea that you can't gain anything out of life, and therefore neither can you lose, you are finally free — Agustino
suicidal individuals often keep on living precisely because of their illness — Heister Eggcart
Secondly, and speaking for myself, I wouldn't say that I've either embraced depression or judged that life is so good that I still want to live in it — Heister Eggcart
I've merely judged that to not be would be worse than to still be — Heister Eggcart
In other words, some depressed people live to be depressed — Heister Eggcart
So nowadays, I wouldn't even think of attending something like a party for example. Many young people are obsessed about partying, as if that would make their life better somehow — Agustino
you are just left to fill your time until you die with whatever you think is good and important. — Agustino
basically you are telling me that they live because they are too lazy to kill
themselves ? ^^ — Hamtatro
So you judged that your life worth more (or "is so good that" depending on the level of fun that I want to put in my words .. ) than "nothing". It is exactly what i wanted to tell you. If you were suffering more than you enjoy your life (no familly for example etc..) then it would be smarter from you to chose death. — Hamtatro
What does it mean ? They live depressed because they like it ? — Hamtatro
Like I said before the final goal of any human is to satisfy his needs, which lead to happines, no one continue living if he have the choice in a case where there is more overall suffering than happiness (in his mind). — Hamtatro
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