Anti-vaxxer says what? — Xtrix
I do recognize they provide an excellent revenue stream. — MondoR
What I am fervently against is having a bunch of hysterical, crazies telling me what I should stick in my body, — MondoR
particularly if the same crazies were involved with the development of a virus that has destroyed the lives of hundreds of millions of people. — MondoR
conspiracy theories — jorndoe
But we are in a fucked up world, and, historically speaking, crisis is the most opportune time for the tyrant to make a move. — Merkwurdichliebe
Both sides are the problem. I'm not on either side. I'm just asking questions that people refuse to answer and would rather nitpick posts than address the valid questions being asked.Oh "the Left" is the problem now... For fuck sake, do you guys ever try to make sense? — Olivier5
None of this addresses the issue of why someone should be vaccinated. As I pointed out, even the vaccinated can carry and spread the virus. So again, what is the point of vaccinating?sure, I suppose the "personal freedom" thing can make a point of sorts. It's just that SARS-CoV-2 doesn't care about anyone's freedom. The virus replicates propagates mutates unchecked in whatever fertile grounds, leaving victims in its wake, and that's a social thing with consequences as well as personal. — jorndoe
Many people here think that they are experts. They imply that science is like a religion where it's conclusions are never to be questioned. As an example, the info that the CDC has put forth has changed several times throughout the pandemic. Even Fauci said that masks don't protect well. Most people are just wearing cloth coverings and wear the masks improperly anyway.There are no experts here. — James Riley
If Covid-19 naturally mutated from a non-lethal virus to a lethal virus, then what is to prevent the regular annual flu from mutating into something more dangerous? Why aren't the annual flu shots being mandated if this is the case, and we should never stop wearing masks for the fear of some virus naturally mutating into something more lethal? — Harry Hindu
If Covid-19 was manufactured in a lab, then that brings a whole host of other implications that we should consider and be fearful of. One implication is that we should be more angry at the scientists manufacturing lethal viruses and unleashing the on the world, than being angry at those that are unvaccinated, which the internet shows most blacks haven't yet been vaccinated thanks to the Left's scare tactics last year when Trump was president. So are you being racist by bashing the un-vaxxed? — Harry Hindu
So you're saying science is like a religion and it's conclusions should never be questioned?Apparently you are unfamiliar with how science works. And apparently I was a fool to take your curiosity at face value. You're just another fucking idiot. Sorry to have wasted our time. Carry on. — James Riley
How did most people develop a resistance to the annual flu - by getting it and now they have the anti-bodies? Why doesn't the same concept work for Covid?The flu sometimes does mutate in a more deadly strain but because the virus is endemic most people have some resistance to it, even against a new deadlier strain. So that never resulted in pressure on healthcare capacity as Covid has and does (I've not heard of triage because of the flu, except maybe the Spanish one). Since we all rather not live in continuous lock downs (I presume) to avoid total deterioration of the healthcare system, a way out is getting enough people vaccinated instead of infected. — Benkei
I don't get this part. If closing down air traffic with China is problematic, which is in essence keeping people separated to prevent the spread then keeping people 6-feet apart and limiting the number of people in a room would be problematic. China was the one that prevented any information from getting out about the virus and how it originated. And if you believe anything the Chinese govt. says then that is problematic.With proper detection, isolation and contact tracing, a lot of nasty bugs could be squashed before they really can do damage, as NZ did, but it requires political will which is often absent because $$$. Closing down air traffic with China is apparently problematic. — Benkei
Many people are arguing that people should get the vaccine to prevent the virus from mutating and spreading, but the research shows that the virus can be spread even by those that are vaccinated. And if the virus can mutate even among the vaccinated, then why are we not making the same argument regarding the common flu?This makes little sense to me. Whether it was manufactured or not doesn't change the healthcare problem. Being angry with those who allegedly made it, wouldn't diminish my annoyance towards those advocating bad policies or personal decisions. — Benkei
So you're saying science is like a religion and it's conclusions should never be questioned? — Harry Hindu
I do know how science works. You only arrive at the correct answer after making all possible mistakes. — Harry Hindu
How did most people develop a resistance to the annual flu - by getting it and now they have the anti-bodies? Why doesn't the same concept work for Covid? — Harry Hindu
I don't get this part. If closing down air traffic with China is problematic, which is in essence keeping people separated to prevent the spread then keeping people 6-feet apart and limiting the number of people in a room would be problematic. China was the one that prevented any information from getting out about the virus and how it originated. And if you believe anything the Chinese govt. says then that is problematic. — Harry Hindu
Many people are arguing that people should get the vaccine to prevent the virus from mutating and spreading, but the research shows that the virus can be spread even by those that are vaccinated. And if the virus can mutate even among the vaccinated, then why are we not making the same argument regarding the common flu? — Harry Hindu
As I pointed out, even the vaccinated can carry and spread the virus. So again, what is the point of vaccinating? — Harry Hindu
but I don't trust what the government and the state-run media says. — Harry Hindu
I do know how science works. You only arrive at the correct answer after making all possible mistakes. — Harry Hindu
What do they all have in common? Some here have called them stupid but I don't think that's it — TheMadFool
Whether it was manufactured or not doesn't change the healthcare problem. — Benkei
In short, even though these groups are, on the whole, deletorious to society, they serve to keep the memory of past failures alive — TheMadFool
The vaccinated are far less likely to spread the virus, because they’re far less to be infected by the virus. It’s that simple. — Xtrix
Yes, let's remember that they mad-scientists that created the virus are now running the vaccination show. Natural immunity is better than the silly 6 months of immunity you get from a vaccination, and I have NATURAL IMMUNITY. Vaccinated people are not only spreading the virus, but they are also a great environment for creating mutations. — MondoR
It's already been shown trees virus load is the same for vaccinated same vaccinated. — MondoR
How did most people develop a resistance to the annual flu - by getting it and now they have the anti-bodies? Why doesn't the same concept work for Covid? — Harry Hindu
they mad-scientists that created the virus are now running the vaccination show. — MondoR
Natural immunity is better than the silly 6 months of immunity you get from a vaccination — MondoR
I have NATURAL IMMUNITY. — MondoR
Vaccinated people are not only spreading the virus, but they are also a great environment for creating mutations. — MondoR
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