Air is beneficial to folks, but the polluted air also kills folks. So they have the contradictory cases, which makes them unfit for qualifying as acceptable premises which prove the PSR true. — Corvus
There is a reason for it happening, whether we know it happened or not. — Fooloso4
Therefore the premises of the reasoning is incorrect or irrelevant, which proves the PSR is not sound. — Corvus
If the PSR is valid it should hold for all events whether known or unknown. — Fooloso4
If PSR is restricted to what we know or observe then the reason for the star exploding is contingent upon our knowledge of it happening. — Fooloso4
What is the explanation for "for every fact there is an explanation"? — Corvus
This sounds like a contradiction. Surely PSR doesn't allow contradictions for the conclusions. — Corvus
These are just repeating the same thing the first part of the sentence using because — Corvus
Gravity is a scientific concept which must apply to every cases in the universe if it is true. — Corvus
But the light bends around sources with high mass due to gravity. — Corvus
When the light is released into the space, why doesn't it fall to the ground? — Corvus
While it is true that photons have no mass, it is also true that we see light bend around sources with high mass due to gravity.
Suppose a star explodes 10 light years from us. It will not be observable to us for 10 years. If the PSR only applies to observable,facts does that mean that with regard to that event the PSR is not valid and will not be valid for 10 years? — Fooloso4
The reason we observed the rock falling is that it fell and we were there to see if fall. There may be various reasons why it fell and various reasons why we were there to see it fall. It does not follow from the fact that we can posit reasons for why we observed the rock fall, that there is a reason for everything. — Fooloso4
You did not address the problem. Observing that a rock falls is not a reason for why the rock falls. — Fooloso4
What does this mean in terms of PSR? The observation that a rock falls is not a reason for or explanation for it falling. If explanation reaches a dead end then either we have failed to find the reason or there is no reason. — Fooloso4
But gravity means more than that. — Fooloso4
This is a false dilemma: either everything has a reason or nothing has a reason. Deniers of the PSR do not claim that nothing has a reason; only that not everything has a reason. Most people accept the laws of logic, and accept logical inferences as valid reasons. But they might still also believe that some brute facts exist without reason. — A Christian Philosophy
Are you claiming that there are reasons that do not involve explanations? — Fooloso4
In accord with the OP it means that there is an explanation. Did you mean 'petitio principii', begging the question? — Fooloso4
And (C1) - our inability to conceive how something can come from nothing marks a limit of our thinking, but should we assume that our limits are the measure of reality or possibility? — Fooloso4
There are several conclusions that might follow from not being able to answer a question. They include the possibility that: C1 - Reason and our capacity to understand is limited. C2 - The question itself is the problem. C3 - Any conclusion that follows is questionable. — Fooloso4
I still hold that the relevant propositions must have "at the same time" added to them — A Christian Philosophy
By the Law of Non-Contradiction, a fact/event cannot be other than it is at the same time.
Suppose true randomness exists such that event 1 occurs without reason. Still, by the law of non-contradiction, event 1 cannot be something else at the same time. But it still occurred without reason. — A Christian Philosophy
Thus, while the uniformity of nature is not known with certainty, it is still known beyond reasonable doubt. — A Christian Philosophy
one can imagine an event without a cause...............This is expected because the test of imagination is associated with logic, and the PSR (which includes causality) is not derived from logic. — A Christian Philosophy
P3 - TrueP1 - I imagine a unicorn in my mind
P2 - I have never seen a unicorn in the world
C1 - Therefore, it is possible that unicorns only exist in my mind
C2 - Therefore, it is possible that unicorns may or may not exist in the world.
The PSR may possibly be proved using logic, even though there is no logical necessity that a fact/event has a reason/cause.P1 - If there can be a fact/event without a reason/cause, then the fact/event could have been other than it is.
P2 - By the Law of Non-Contradiction, a fact/event cannot be other than it is
C1 - Therefore, a fact/event must have a reason/cause
For any thing that exists or is true, there is a sufficient reason for it to exist or to be true.............................We observe that our reasoning works in 2 ways: deduction and induction — A Christian Philosophy
Counter-Argument against the PSR: Quantum Physics — A Christian Philosophy
You pour out your soul here and you're met with blank stares — Dominic Osborn
While a functioning brain is undeniably necessary for reasoning, it doesn't follow that reasoning is reducible to or explainable as neurophysiological processes — Wayfarer
3. Thus, according to Berkeley, a mind had to exist before or come to existence simultaneously with ideas. — Brenner T
In philosophy, intentionality is the power of minds and mental states to be about, to represent, or to stand for, things, properties and states of affairs. To say of an individual’s mental states that they have intentionality is to say that they are mental representations or that they have contents. (SEP - Intentionality)
It does not follow from the fact all sciences of reason contain synthetic a priori judgements as principles, that instances of particular relations of particular conceptions, are all principles in themselves................................If you wish to stipulate that Kant’s synthetic a priori is the principle that….that’s fine, but I doubt it’s what Kant intended for it. — Mww
B356 The term "a principle" is ambiguous, and commonly signifies only a cognition that can be used as a principle even if in itself and as to its own origin it is not a principle.
B358 Thus the understanding cannot yield synthetic cognitions from concepts at all, and it is properly these that I call principles absolutely; nevertheless, all universal propositions in general can be called principles comparatively.
page 13 - At this point in the Critique Kant has completed the largest part of his constructive project, showing how synthetic a priori principles of theoretical cognition are the necessary conditions of the application of the categories to sensible data structured by the pure forms of intuition.
page 85 - Synthetic a priori judgments are contained as principles' in all theoretical sciences of reason.
Synthetic a priori is not itself a principle; it is the condition of principles, unities, conceptions and anything else to which it applies, in which representations relate to each other in a certain manner, re: synthetically, and, representations are of a certain origin, re: a priori................If you want to say certain forms of representations adhere to the synthetic a priori principle, you haven’t in the least said anything about those forms, other than give them a name, without anything about what it means to be so. — Mww
The "Transcendental Analytic" has prepared the way for this critique of traditional metaphysics and its foundations by its argument that synthetic a priori principles can be established only within the limited domain of sensible experience.
.synthetic a priori isn’t a principle, it’s a relation of the content of certain kinds of conceptions to each other — Mww
You said synthetic a priori is a principle; Kant says synthetic a priori judgements are principles. — Mww
The "Transcendental Analytic" has prepared the way for this critique of traditional metaphysics and its foundations by its argument that synthetic a priori principles can be established only within the limited domain of sensible experience.
At this point in the Critique Kant has completed the largest part of his constructive project, showing how synthetic a priori principles of theoretical cognition are the necessary conditions of the application of the categories to sensible data structured by the pure forms of intuition.
synthetic a priori isn’t a principle, it’s a relation of the content of certain kinds of conceptions to each other; — Mww
"Synthetic a priori judgments are contained as principles in all theoretical sciences of reason."
Over the course of seven days, you’ve included B276 in every single one of seven consecutive responses to my posts to you, but never say any more than the text itself. — Mww
One must not overlook the significance embedded in propositions such as, consciousness of determinations of existence in time. — Mww
While that is the case, it is merely beside the point. It needs be shown why external objects as considered by the established idealisms of the day were conceived without proper regard for what came to be posited as transcendental conditions, the foremost being, of course, time. — Mww
Kant isn’t proving the existence of things as much as he’s proving the material idealist’s denial or doubt of things, is improperly justified. — Mww
But naturalism then presumes that the mind which knows it, is the product of that process it only knows metaphorically. — Wayfarer
Certainly we can imagine the early universe, devoid of organic life, but that imagined universe still contains a perspective and a sense of scale provided by the observing mind. — Wayfarer
Nothing will ever lead me to understand what a nebula, which could not be seen by anyone, might be. Maurice Merleau-Ponty — Wayfarer
We cannot step outside the life-world, because we carry it with us wherever we go. — The Blind Spot - Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser, Evan Thompson
Whereas, I think you're taking what you understand as the scientific picture of the world as being real independently of any observer, attributing with a kind of absolute or taken-for-granted reality. But then you can't see where 'mind' fits in, because that picture is purportedly 'mind-independent'! — Wayfarer
Also see How Time Began with the First Eye Opening — Wayfarer
Those who like mythological interpretations may take the birth of Kronos, the youngest of the Titans, as a symbol of the moment here referred to at which time appears, though, indeed it has no beginning; for with him, since he ate his father, the crude productions of heaven and earth cease, and the races of gods and men appear upon the scene - Schopenhauer
The quoted section is only a synthetic judgement based on a pure a priori intuition. — Mww
CPR B276
Theorem = The mere, but empirically determined, consciousness of my own existence proves the existence of objects in space outside me.
Proof = I am conscious of my existence as determined in time.
All time-determination presupposes something persistent in perception.
This persistent thing, however, cannot be something in me, since my own existence in time can first be determined only through this persistent thing.
Thus the perception of this persistent thing is possible only through a thing outside me and not through the mere representation of a thing outside me.
Consequently, the determination of my existence in time is possible only by means of the existenceb of actual things that I perceive outside myself.
Now consciousness in time is necessarily combined with the consciousness of the possibility of this time-determination:
Therefore it is also necessarily combined with the existence of the things outside me, as the condition of time-determination;
i.e., the consciousness of my own existence is at the same time an immediate consciousness of the existence of other things outside me.
The quoted part is a pretty good definition of sensation. The assertion as a whole is false, insofar as experience is not of things perceived, but representations of them. — Mww
Maybe YOUR a priori pure intuitions according to your transcendental argument, but if Kant with his means for humanity in general the only two are space and time, and they are the necessary conditions for possible experience, it is the other way around from yours. — Mww
What things do we not know through their effects/acts? How could we know anything immanent if not through its effects/acts? — Count Timothy von Icarus
The dividing line is at the eye because the mind/brain is assumed to be the dividing line between the world and the observer. Yet one could make the same sort of case for any dividing line one wants to defend. — Count Timothy von Icarus
How unknown is it if you know what it causes and that it is red? — Count Timothy von Icarus
This seems to be equivocating between different sorts of mind-independence. — Count Timothy von Icarus
That appearances are the necessary antecedent occasions for their employment, it does not follow they are derived from them, and in accordance with the theory, they are indeed, not, nor can they be. — Mww